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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="8" time="08.06.11" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="9" time="08.06.25" ref="0">i'm here tonight to talk to you about blogs</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="10" time="08.06.26" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="11" time="08.06.39" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="12" time="08.06.56" ref="0">I will talk about forums</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="13" time="08.07.15" ref="0">and I will refer to wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="14" time="08.07.42" ref="0">(#user2#), what will you be talking about ?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="15" time="08.08.06" ref="0">i will try to convince you that blogging is one of the most interesting ways to communicate</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="16" time="08.08.23" ref="0">give us some arguments</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="17" time="08.09.27" ref="16">first of all, you can express your personal opinions about anything and you can tell them as detailed as you consider</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="18" time="08.10.11" ref="0">you can also use a blog as a time capsule, to see how your way of thinking evolves over time</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="19" time="08.10.47" ref="16">and i guess you can also use blogs to promote different products, opinions etc.</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="20" time="08.11.04" ref="0">I consider posting on a blog a very time consuming process</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="21" time="08.11.48" ref="20">yes,it is time consuming, but it's the same for wiki and forums: you haveto give a good thought to what you're going to say before you say it</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="22" time="08.12.44" ref="20">on the blog it's maybe more relaxed, because the information is personal, and not necessarily accurate</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="23" time="08.12.52" ref="21">Yes, but blogs focus more on how the content looks</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="24" time="08.14.01" ref="23">depends on the blog...and what you're using it for</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="25" time="08.14.03" ref="0">and it's pretty difficult to make the post look exactly as you want (with pictures and such)</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="26" time="08.14.45" ref="25">well, yes, but it's not a thing you're obliged to do</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="27" time="08.15.01" ref="12">what about forums?</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="28" time="08.15.18" ref="12">what's so special there?</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="29" time="08.15.26" ref="26">but if you are using blogs for a company, thing can get a little mandatory</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="30" time="08.16.02" ref="29">yes, but there you're paied to promote that blog, so all the effort is worth it</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="31" time="08.16.28" ref="13">and i don't know anything about wiki. what can you tell me about it?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="34" time="08.23.27" ref="0">welcome again</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="35" time="08.24.14" ref="0">it's good to be back</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="36" time="08.24.44" ref="0">ok, we can resume now after our little coffee break</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="37" time="08.25.25" ref="36">let me say a few words about forums</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="38" time="08.26.37" ref="0">What I really like about forums is the search feature. It helps users find very easily the information they are looking for</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="39" time="08.27.08" ref="0">(#user1#), to answer your question</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="40" time="08.27.17" ref="38">does it take a long time until you really find something usefull?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="41" time="08.27.58" ref="40">no, the search feature is built into forums so it's very efficient</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="42" time="08.29.16" ref="0">Anotherthing I consider very good is the ability to control what users postand the ability to track users who don't respect the rules of the forum</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="43" time="08.29.35" ref="42">how can you track the users?</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="44" time="08.30.53" ref="43">Whenusers log into the forum, they must have a valid account, one that canbe created, for example, using information from HR, if we are talkingabout companies</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="45" time="08.31.10" ref="0">if we are not, any email and username will do</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="46" time="08.33.49" ref="31">inopposition to blogs and forums, which are meant for exposing thoughtsand opinions, wiki is about making general information available to thecommunity</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="47" time="08.34.48" ref="46">but to me it seems it's not very popular</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="48" time="08.35.02" ref="0">is it harder to use?</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="49" time="08.35.08" ref="0">this "open editing" feature encouruges democratic use of the web, and promotes content composition by non-technical users</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="50" time="08.35.28" ref="46">a problem might be that sometimes you just don't know what you are looking for</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="51" time="08.36.05" ref="50">this is where public access comes into action</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="52" time="08.36.36" ref="0">anyone can add specifity and details</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="53" time="08.36.45" ref="49">open editing also means posting of information by persons who shouldn't</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="54" time="08.37.13" ref="49">it also leads to uninteresting information</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="55" time="08.37.55" ref="52">what about ill-intended persons ?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="56" time="08.37.57" ref="0">that'sright but statistics show that in the case that someone posts somemalevolent text, it is corrected by other users in an average of twoseconds!</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="57" time="08.38.54" ref="56">i think you are giving Wikipedia as an example, and this doesn'</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="58" time="08.39.08" ref="0">doesn't happen to all wikis</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="59" time="08.40.01" ref="51">can the users of a wiki communicate with eachother ?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="60" time="08.40.35" ref="57">are there any other wikis that are used frequently except wikipedia?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="61" time="08.41.16" ref="60">one field in which wikis may prove very efficient is scientific research</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="62" time="08.42.35" ref="0">of course, this narrows a little the availability of information, but it fosters result sharing between team members</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="63" time="08.43.27" ref="0">and also doesn't require any knowledge of site maintenance</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="64" time="08.44.05" ref="0">the webmaster has its own part of dealing with the maintenance, while scinetists can concentrate on the content only</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="65" time="08.44.17" ref="63">yes, but i guess blogs and forums don't require any maintenance, unless you're actually using them for earning money</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="66" time="08.44.42" ref="64">and there too can be an administrator</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="67" time="08.45.07" ref="64">wikis usually don't have a webmaster, they run themselves</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="68" time="08.45.15" ref="65">i guess there must be someone monitoring the posts and take action if someone is posting injurious text</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="69" time="08.46.00" ref="0">yes, but usually blogs have a feature called moderating</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="70" time="08.46.24" ref="0">it means that you get to read the comments and only the ones you think that are relevant will be posted</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="71" time="08.46.35" ref="67">yes,but there must be someone taking care of the underlying storage i.e.databases, and imporve means of writing new information</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="72" time="08.47.30" ref="0">another thing i like about blogs is that you can read just articles included in a particular category</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="73" time="08.48.03" ref="72">only if the blog is partitioned well enough</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="74" time="08.49.13" ref="73">well yes...that depends on the user, but most users do that</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="75" time="08.49.40" ref="72">this is also a neat feature of forums, the fact that you can search information by thread</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="76" time="08.50.10" ref="0">i think wikis are well suited when extracting infomation, because they tend to be structured in a logical way</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="77" time="08.50.44" ref="0">information is often difficult to follow in some forum thread, because the replies are often contradictory</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="78" time="08.50.51" ref="75">what do you like forums so much?</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="79" time="08.50.59" ref="0">what is its biggest advantage</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="80" time="08.51.30" ref="77">and most of the times, the main question gets forgot really quick</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="81" time="08.51.55" ref="79">The biggest advantage of forums, in my oppinion, is that it helps create relationships between the users</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="82" time="08.52.37" ref="0">and users who post often and to the subject get promoted so other users can rely more on their answers</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="83" time="08.53.21" ref="0">I believe it's best suited for building an internet community</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="84" time="08.53.40" ref="81">but users on forums don't usually know anything more personal about each other</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="85" time="08.54.06" ref="0">to me, it seems like a relationship based on problems</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="86" time="08.54.42" ref="0">wikis seem like they are based on correct information, and not on creating relationships</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="87" time="08.54.45" ref="80">onsome forums users are warned if they deviate from the original topicand asked to move their posts to other topics, more suited</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="88" time="08.55.28" ref="85">the worse brings people together :)</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="89" time="08.55.47" ref="0">and very often, people with similar interests</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="90" time="08.56.24" ref="86">yes, this is some of the main differences between wikis and the other instruments we are talking about</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="91" time="08.56.40" ref="79">the biggest advantage in a blog is that your ideas are public and possibly read by people with the same interests</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="92" time="08.56.51" ref="0">wikis are more community-oriented than individual-oriented</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="93" time="09.00.09" ref="0">in fact, I think we are talking about means of achieving different targets, one does not exclude the other</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="94" time="09.01.01" ref="93">if we could put them all together, we could change the world</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="95" time="09.01.31" ref="0">just a joke :)</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="96" time="09.01.33" ref="94">what if we are the first to think about this ? :)</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="97" time="09.02.41" ref="0">I think that by combining all of these instruments we can eliminate the disadvantages discused above</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="98" time="09.03.20" ref="97">what do you think that could be combined better?</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="99" time="09.03.50" ref="97">yes, this way we can cover all aspects of communication</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="100" time="09.04.14" ref="0">i think blogs could be best combined with chats</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="101" time="09.04.24" ref="0">a solid knowledge base for the community might be maintained in the form of a wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="102" time="09.04.32" ref="0">results that have already been proved</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="103" time="09.04.41" ref="98">Isee a good way of combining wikis and forums : people searchinformation, and if they don't find it or don't understand it, theycould post on an attached forum</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="104" time="09.05.19" ref="0">also, new subjects and debates might represent a new forum thread</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="105" time="09.05.36" ref="100">some users show their messenger availability on the blog, so that people can ask them questions directly</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="106" time="09.06.08" ref="103">i think that could work nicely</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="107" time="09.06.15" ref="0">when debates are finalized and members agree upon a certain result, it can be promoted to the wiki as consistent information</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="108" time="09.06.29" ref="100">chatson which people are online in certain time intervals (because you knowhow frustrating can be to wait for a person to answer)</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="109" time="09.07.38" ref="107">there would still be a small problem how to integrate blogs and chats with wikis and forums</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="110" time="09.08.09" ref="0">ithink that everyone should post ideas on their blogs, and the mostpopular to be promoted to the forums, and then maybe to the wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="111" time="09.08.26" ref="109">forums can easily integrate chats, for online users to communicate faster</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="112" time="09.08.56" ref="110">that seems a logical evolution to me</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="113" time="09.09.02" ref="0">after all, there is no need to post if you know another user will post a couple of second after</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="114" time="09.09.12" ref="0">actually, you could integrate anything with chats to communicate faster</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="115" time="09.15.41" ref="0">in the end I would say that each instrument of communication has its own role in information exchange</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="116" time="09.16.11" ref="115">and i think they are more usefull together than separate</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="117" time="09.16.16" ref="110">It all depends of the needs of the activity for which these instruments are needed</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="118" time="09.16.25" ref="0">going from the personal level (where chat is mostly used) to general community level, where wikis would be most appropriate</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="119" time="09.16.36" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="120" time="09.17.08" ref="0">somebody seems that brought us coffee</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="121" time="09.17.50" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="122" time="09.18.52" ref="0">Ifsomeone is wondering what instrument to use, they should experimentsome of the instruments discused above to see which one in better forthem</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="123" time="09.19.35" ref="122">i think in time you could get to appreciate each one, based on how much you need them in your every day work or lifestyle</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="124" time="09.20.21" ref="123">we don't have to choose a winner :)</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="125" time="09.21.03" ref="124">the winner should be all of them integrated as we discussed earlier</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="126" time="09.21.17" ref="0">it would have all tha advatages</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="127" time="09.21.36" ref="0">and maybe one disadvantage: it would a bit harder to maintain</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="128" time="09.21.36" ref="0">in a future society, all instruments will have equal use</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="129" time="09.22.15" ref="128">in the activity that uses them best</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="130" time="09.22.31" ref="0">thank you for sharing your ideas</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="131" time="09.23.28" ref="0">anyway, I think ConcertChat is great, and even though we didn't talk about chats ... we used one to communicate :)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="132" time="09.24.21" ref="130">well, bye</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="133" time="09.25.04" ref="0">take care</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="134" time="09.25.17" ref="0">bye!</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="135" time="09.25.33" ref="0">bye</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="136" time="09.25.38" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="137" time="09.25.47" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="138" time="09.26.25" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
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