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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="1" time="07.37.50" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="2" time="07.38.04" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="3" time="07.38.37" ref="0">hello!</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="4" time="07.38.43" ref="0">hi</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="5" time="07.39.27" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="6" time="07.40.00" ref="0">My name is (#user2#) and I would like to talk to you about the Wiki tehnology</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="7" time="07.40.04" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="8" time="07.40.39" ref="6">My name is (#user1#) and I will talk about chat tehnology</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="9" time="07.40.55" ref="0">I'm (#user0#), I would like to talk to you about forums and their usage in collaborative learning</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="10" time="07.41.32" ref="0">Hello again. I am very happy to be here tonight and I hope you are going to have a very interesting discution</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="11" time="07.42.33" ref="0">so perhaps you should start and tell us about wikis</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="12" time="07.43.23" ref="11">Of couse (#user0#)</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="13" time="07.43.43" ref="0">I will try to make an introduction in the fascinating world of wiki</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="14" time="07.44.40" ref="0">Ifirst started to use wiki software some 2 years ago, when I was workingon a different software project and having trouble exchangingdocumentation with other developers</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="15" time="07.45.57" ref="14">What was wrong with e-mail?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="16" time="07.46.20" ref="0">I found e-mail to be difficul to use</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="17" time="07.46.55" ref="0">because it does not allow to make changes to a sent e-mail ... and threading discutions tend to be hard to follow</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="18" time="07.47.31" ref="0">Anyway.. i wanted to create some html pages so everybody can watch and understand the developement process</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="19" time="07.48.22" ref="0">Peopleare free to make changes , to ask questions, to add or deleteparagraphs.. The documentation became clearer, easier to follow andmore maintainable</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="20" time="07.48.29" ref="17">wellthis can be viewed as a disadvantage too... since you do not recordhistory really well; you only see the end result in a wiki (who bothersto search the history page)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="21" time="07.48.47" ref="0">yes. I also thought that at first</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="22" time="07.49.17" ref="0">But, as the creator and administrator of the page i can revert any changes made to the document</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="23" time="07.49.24" ref="20">and once a modification goes far back in time in the history page it is kind of lost</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="24" time="07.49.56" ref="0">The advantage here is that only th e "good" information remains</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="25" time="07.50.29" ref="24">how is this information selected</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="26" time="07.50.33" ref="0">?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="27" time="07.51.05" ref="0">In my case, it was a rather specific problem , meaning there was a small number of people working and documenting the project</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="28" time="07.51.55" ref="0">But it also works on an open environment like the web</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="29" time="07.52.05" ref="0">Take for example wikipedia.org</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="30" time="07.52.38" ref="0">it is hard to trust wikipedia, it has had false data</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="31" time="07.53.12" ref="0">That's why some security measures that can be taken</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="32" time="07.53.42" ref="0">for example: you can allow only certain group of peoples to make changes to the document</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="33" time="07.54.44" ref="32">here a forum provides a rather different approach</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="34" time="07.55.02" ref="0">everbody changes information</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="35" time="07.55.20" ref="0">or rather.... everyboy _adds_ information</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="36" time="07.55.44" ref="0">and you can filter good information by looking at the poster's profile</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="37" time="07.56.05" ref="33">I think a forum is better suited for FAQ that a tehincal documentation</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="38" time="07.56.30" ref="0">if he/she has for example a large number of posts this means motivation and most likely it means he/she knows the subject well</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="39" time="07.56.36" ref="35">but about people who troll - ads some inflamatory statement to the purpose of anoying everybody</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="40" time="07.56.58" ref="37">we're talking about collaborative learning here</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="41" time="07.57.11" ref="0">yes, but people are biased</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="42" time="07.57.17" ref="0">and a forum is a vrey good way to expose knowledge</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="43" time="07.57.34" ref="0">let us say we are in a discution about php developement</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="44" time="07.57.58" ref="0">and someone on the forum says that php is really so 90's and slow and insecure</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="45" time="07.58.18" ref="0">and everyboody is wrong using it... they shoul better use some other solution</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="46" time="07.59.14" ref="39">indeed..some people troll but the same meritocracy principle works here whensomeone posts serveral times whithout connection to the subject he issimply ignored by the ones who want to learn and acuire the information</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="47" time="07.59.44" ref="0">and really good information can always be selected and placed as a sticky post</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="48" time="07.59.49" ref="0">Yes, indeed , but in a wiki this information (bad info) can be filtered out</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="49" time="08.00.38" ref="48">i think using a forum or chat to determine that information is a very good solution</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="50" time="08.01.48" ref="39">inthe end it comes down to: do you prefer filtered information or do youconsider that the process of creation of knowledge brings as muchbenefits as the end result (knowledge) as well</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="51" time="08.02.12" ref="50">I agree this is controversial though</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="52" time="08.02.31" ref="0">There are other benefits of using wiki</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="53" time="08.03.33" ref="0">For example , if you want to add something between 2 paragrafs in a post... it's imposible to make this changes easy readable</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="54" time="08.03.52" ref="0">you have to copy the previous post and make the desirable chages</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="55" time="08.04.17" ref="54">you don't have to copy the entire post</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="56" time="08.04.40" ref="0">you can just use quote to give an idea as to what you are referring to</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="57" time="08.04.58" ref="0">yes... but for a third person this is tendious</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="58" time="08.05.27" ref="0">it has to pass thru the whole history (thread) to understand the final result</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="59" time="08.05.52" ref="0">on a wiki page the first thing we see is the result</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="60" time="08.06.01" ref="58">see I believe you have identified perfectly the difference in approach</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="61" time="08.06.15" ref="0">wikis care a lot about the result</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="62" time="08.06.45" ref="0">and they hide in the history page (rarely checked) the process which led to that result</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="63" time="08.07.06" ref="61">this leads to good clean pages of information I agree</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="64" time="08.07.16" ref="0">Yes.. and this is good because only the relevant informations remains .. exactly</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="65" time="08.07.44" ref="0">but I believe forums come up with almost as good results... but expose the whole process of "hoe did we get there"</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="66" time="08.08.01" ref="0">"how did we get there" - sorry for misspelling</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="67" time="08.08.17" ref="0">and learning is after all a live, dynamic experience</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="68" time="08.08.25" ref="0">no problem.. just a typo.. here's something that could be easily changed in a wiki</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="69" time="08.08.32" ref="67">more than just a good nice formatted result</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="70" time="08.08.49" ref="68">you got me here :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="71" time="08.09.23" ref="0">Butthat can create confusion for a beginner, it is sometimes better togive him the result, not show him 3 ways hoe not to do it and a good one</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="72" time="08.10.08" ref="66">the previos message was linked to "how did we get there"</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="73" time="08.10.39" ref="0">So , (#user1#), what is , in your opinion , the best way to trade information</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="74" time="08.10.44" ref="71">true... this depends indeed on the mindset of the person using that resource... i</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="75" time="08.11.07" ref="73">all of the above depending on the situation</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="76" time="08.11.23" ref="0">for lab suport I think wiki is better</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="77" time="08.11.43" ref="0">but for questions about howmework assignments a forum is better</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="78" time="08.13.10" ref="77">exactly...in the first example the end result matters more; but in the second thediscussion itself and following the mistakes of others and theirsolutions can clearly be more important than just seeing the "perfect"way to do it from the beginning</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="79" time="08.14.20" ref="0">but wiki and forums are slow, if a quick decision needs to be taken a chat is better</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="80" time="08.15.05" ref="79">the main disadvantage is that it's transient</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="81" time="08.15.05" ref="0">Indeed, wikis and forums are asynchronous ways of communication</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="82" time="08.15.11" ref="0">you close the window... it's gone</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="83" time="08.15.32" ref="82">I was about about to add that</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="84" time="08.15.46" ref="80">depends on the client, skype keeps the discussion on the server</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="85" time="08.15.59" ref="0">and you can see it for awhyle</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="86" time="08.16.28" ref="0">usually chat discutions are between 2-3 persons ... i don't know anybody sharing it with the community</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="87" time="08.18.07" ref="0">And something else.. usually you have to deploy a chat client that connects to a central server</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="88" time="08.18.45" ref="0">for a wiki system , all you need is a browser and a connection to the internet</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="89" time="08.18.57" ref="86">indeed...they don't have a role to spread knowledge to everybody; the way I seeit they're a really quick and highly interactive way of sharing ideas</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="90" time="08.19.12" ref="88">the chat we are using now only required a web browser and java installed</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="91" time="08.19.24" ref="89">sharing ideas between 2 people usually</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="92" time="08.19.28" ref="0">but it downloaded a whole application</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="93" time="08.19.49" ref="0">on a dial-up connection it will take something like 15 minutes to load</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="94" time="08.19.58" ref="0">and it needed java</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="95" time="08.20.05" ref="91">not necesarly, but no more than 10, I use chat for conferences with about 8 people</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="96" time="08.20.21" ref="0">a wiki can be edited in text mode.. use lynx (the command line web browser)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="97" time="08.21.01" ref="0">You can edit a wiki from your cell phone</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="98" time="08.21.30" ref="97">you can chat form your cellphone, but I don't think many people do it</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="99" time="08.21.31" ref="0">and it does not require any proprietary protocol.. plain old HTTP</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="100" time="08.21.51" ref="97">youcan also post to a forum and/or char so this is an argument thatcommunications are more and more mobile not an argument in favor ofwikis</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="101" time="08.21.55" ref="98">editing wikis is also hard from a cell phone</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="102" time="08.22.48" ref="0">in the end it is about choosing what fits in a certain situation</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="103" time="08.23.06" ref="0">yes, true</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="104" time="08.26.22" ref="0">i will talk now about how easy is to implement and deploy a wiki system</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="105" time="08.26.40" ref="0">In fact is the wiki system that i'm developing</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="106" time="08.27.24" ref="0">it is written in PHP using the PEAR extension. For the backend you can choose between several DBMS like MySQL or PostreSQL</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="107" time="08.28.00" ref="0">all it needs is the Apache web server, so the system can run on Windows, Linux or other flavours of unixes</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="108" time="08.28.29" ref="0">It is fast (performance tests show that it is limited by the data layer)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="109" time="08.28.59" ref="0">it is relliable (i can guarranty ) 99.9% uptime ... we do make certain updates</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="110" time="08.30.33" ref="106">well PHP has had its part of security vulnerabilities</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="111" time="08.31.12" ref="0">yes.. but it is used on a large scale.. and it has a very large developer community</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="112" time="08.32.15" ref="108">and all your clients need to worry is to have a browser (any browser) and an internet connection</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="113" time="08.33.04" ref="111">did you think of how your system it could be integrated with complementary technologies like forums or chats or blogs?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="114" time="08.33.55" ref="0">Yes... it can be integrated with different other tehcnologies</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="115" time="08.35.01" ref="113">I think it is harder to integrate chat, but with some javascript it can be done</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="116" time="08.35.15" ref="113">forexample we tried to design the forum system we develop as modular aspossible to allow it to be easily plugged into a wider application</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="117" time="08.35.34" ref="0">i think the term is to mash-up</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="118" time="08.35.43" ref="0">it is widely used in Web 2.0</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="119" time="08.35.49" ref="115">but I think that a standalone solution like skype will always be better (have better performance and more features)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="120" time="08.36.35" ref="0">hm.. .we throw integration off the window</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="121" time="08.37.14" ref="0">but we can create a client written in AJAX to handle IM</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="122" time="08.37.25" ref="116">ithas well defined interfaces; for example you can post a reply in theusual way by using a browser but also programatically from code throughan interprocess communication mechanism; the forum exposes methods suchas "reply" and you can use that from C++, Java or Python code to add areply to the backend database</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="123" time="08.38.11" ref="120">talking about integration... it is also really important to create a natural workflow for the user</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="124" time="08.38.31" ref="0">yes... a forum for a wiki page, maybe</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="125" time="08.38.52" ref="0">he/sheshould be able to choose each solutions when it is appropriate and tobe able to cross reference information between the tools</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="126" time="08.39.02" ref="0">always the best tehnical solution will be on top... but one can easy see how the decision process took place</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="127" time="08.39.22" ref="0">and then one can IM admins or other online users to ask for advice</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="128" time="08.39.51" ref="125">I believe it would be really useful to be able to refer to a wiki post from a forum, etc</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="129" time="08.40.08" ref="128">You can post a link ...</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="130" time="08.41.00" ref="129">something a bit more.. say some sort of preview or contextual information given when you hold the mouse over the link</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="131" time="08.41.17" ref="0">Yes .. this would be a good idea</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="132" time="08.41.31" ref="0">on the wiki you could have details from the forum activity of the person that has modified a page</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="133" time="08.42.06" ref="0">and one can get in touch with that person by using a chat system</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="134" time="08.42.19" ref="132">if he bothers to be active and give lots of replies he probabily will to good on the wiki too; his edits can be more trusted</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="135" time="08.43.02" ref="0">This is a good observation</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="136" time="08.43.32" ref="133">yes that could be better than the "discussions" area the wiki page offers</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="137" time="08.44.48" ref="0">so, we agree .. if wiki, forum and chat work togheter we can fac a better flow of information</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="138" time="08.45.03" ref="0">we can have .. sorry</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="139" time="08.45.38" ref="0">Each have advantages .</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="140" time="08.46.03" ref="139">and disadvantages</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="141" time="08.46.04" ref="0">So I want to thank you for your time</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="142" time="08.46.14" ref="0">It was a very interesting discution!</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="143" time="08.47.20" ref="142">Indeed it was</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="144" time="08.47.59" ref="0">Thank you for your time gentlemen</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="145" time="08.48.08" ref="0">Same here !</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="146" time="08.48.19" ref="0">have a nice evening!</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="147" time="08.48.28" ref="146">Have a good night</Utterance>
		</Turn>
	</Body>
</Dialog> 
