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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="1" time="09.52.52" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="2" time="09.52.53" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="3" time="09.57.57" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="4" time="09.58.45" ref="0">hello!</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="5" time="09.59.00" ref="0">hello!</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="6" time="09.59.07" ref="0">hello</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="7" time="09.59.24" ref="0">we should be waiting for (#user5#)</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="8" time="09.59.45" ref="0">i was beginning to think it would never download... yes :)</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="9" time="10.10.39" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="10" time="10.11.03" ref="0">salut</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="11" time="10.11.07" ref="0">hello</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="12" time="10.11.10" ref="0">hello</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="13" time="10.11.22" ref="0">so everyone is here, we should start :)</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="14" time="10.12.03" ref="0">we're supposed to use English, since it's easier to "adnotate". can't wait to see what's that all about... ^^</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="15" time="10.12.10" ref="0">i suggest we first introduce ourselves first</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="16" time="10.12.27" ref="0">i'm going to start</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="17" time="10.13.01" ref="0">my name is (#user1#), and i am the representative of a company selling chat conference solutions</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="18" time="10.14.00" ref="0">I am (#user2#), and my company is currently developping software that uses wiki technologies</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="19" time="10.14.46" ref="0">pleased to meet you all</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="20" time="10.14.47" ref="0">My name is (#user5#), and I'm a student of FILS.</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="21" time="10.14.57" ref="0">nice to meet you too</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="22" time="10.15.06" ref="0">I am (#user0#) and I am here to promote message boards also known as forums</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="23" time="10.16.17" ref="0">(#user5#), you are supposed to represent tonight a company selling blog solutions</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="24" time="10.16.27" ref="0">so</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="25" time="10.16.33" ref="0">(#user5#), what is your company's line of work?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="26" time="10.16.35" ref="0">we start with my presentation?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="27" time="10.16.56" ref="26">ok, go on :)</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="28" time="10.17.04" ref="0">ok</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="29" time="10.17.46" ref="0">we all know that blog comes from weblog , that means a web journal</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="30" time="10.18.00" ref="0">an electronic one</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="31" time="10.18.49" ref="0">it is a website where the articles are written in chronologic order and are displayed in inverse cronologic order</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="32" time="10.19.44" ref="0">some weblogs contain news or comments, others contain journals</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="33" time="10.20.11" ref="0">we can classify these weblogs on some criterias</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="34" time="10.20.40" ref="0">on media type</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="35" time="10.21.08" ref="0">there are video blogs or vlogs</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="36" time="10.21.21" ref="0">link-linklog-photos-photoblog-portfolio of sketches-sketch blog-art-artlog</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="37" time="10.21.29" ref="0">and so on</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="38" time="10.21.54" ref="0">on genre</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="39" time="10.22.07" ref="0">there are political blogs</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="40" time="10.22.11" ref="0">fashion blogs</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="41" time="10.22.19" ref="0">travel blogs</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="42" time="10.22.35" ref="0">dreamlogs and so on</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="43" time="10.23.33" ref="29">but why use a blog for educational purpose? most blogs I have seen are just personal websites for someone's thoughts</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="44" time="10.23.56" ref="0">let me finish first</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="45" time="10.24.07" ref="0">and then the questions</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="46" time="10.24.32" ref="0">some advantages of these blogs</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="47" time="10.25.04" ref="0">first</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="48" time="10.25.11" ref="0">it is very easy to create</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="49" time="10.25.43" ref="0">you don't need to have much knowledge in webdesign</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="50" time="10.25.48" ref="0">to create a blog</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="51" time="10.26.21" ref="0">also the variety is very big</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="52" time="10.26.58" ref="0">it alternates the text with the images and music</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="53" time="10.27.32" ref="0">there are a lot of providers</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="54" time="10.27.53" ref="0">such as wordpress.com</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="55" time="10.28.00" ref="0">blogger.com</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="56" time="10.28.14" ref="0">eblog.ro</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="57" time="10.28.28" ref="0">sorry it's ablog.ro</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="58" time="10.28.39" ref="0">weblog.ro</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="59" time="10.28.43" ref="0">and many others</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="60" time="10.29.44" ref="0">the participants mustn't be all online</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="61" time="10.29.57" ref="0">like on chat</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="62" time="10.30.35" ref="0">and also the content will remain available some time</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="63" time="10.31.30" ref="0">the content is blocked</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="64" time="10.31.56" ref="0">(#user5#),why do you think that your solution is better than the solutions weprovide? Can you tell us a few things that you think make blogs betterthan chat, forums or wiki?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="65" time="10.32.11" ref="0">ok</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="66" time="10.32.22" ref="0">I've said some about chat</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="67" time="10.32.39" ref="0">do you want to repeat them?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="68" time="10.33.58" ref="67">it is not necessary, i have read them</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="69" time="10.34.01" ref="62">no, i've noticed that one too, but how about this one: wiki doesn't require the user to log on. You just edit it, in 1 minute</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="70" time="10.34.28" ref="0">the blog often requires a long process of user registrationg, assigning rights by admin, and such</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="71" time="10.35.54" ref="69">becauseyou don't have to register and you do not provide info about yourselfon wiki, most people do not consider wiki a trusted resource</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="72" time="10.36.35" ref="0">it's true, but stick to blog for now</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="73" time="10.36.47" ref="0">yes and on wikis there's not a blocked content like on a blog</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="74" time="10.38.00" ref="52">Ialso think it's very hard to post content other than text: picturesneed resizing to look good, and if you want a higher resolution, youneed an extra server for pictures, like flickr.com</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="75" time="10.38.16" ref="0">i believe that a blog is hard to maintain, a bolg eat up a lot of time</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="76" time="10.38.43" ref="75">i agree with you</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="77" time="10.38.52" ref="0">wikis also take time to maintain</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="78" time="10.38.57" ref="0">it's true but a blog looks much better</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="79" time="10.39.16" ref="0">also, blogs and wikis get hardly indexed by google</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="80" time="10.39.45" ref="0">a forum for example gets easier indexed and has a search function implemented in itself</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="81" time="10.39.52" ref="0">however</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="82" time="10.40.04" ref="0">all your solutions are mostly offline :)</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="83" time="10.40.26" ref="0">if you need real time communication, like the one we are doing right now, you need a chat application</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="84" time="10.41.09" ref="0">also the blog permits posting articles in real time</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="85" time="10.41.52" ref="84">you cannot have a conference or real time discussion on a blog</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="86" time="10.42.40" ref="0">but it is hard to have a quality blog because not all people have something intresting to say</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="87" time="10.43.07" ref="86">same on forums :) but you can moderate both</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="88" time="10.44.00" ref="0">I must add something</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="89" time="10.44.17" ref="0">the use of blogs in Romania</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="90" time="10.45.05" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="91" time="10.45.09" ref="0">for education only 8% from the total number of blogs are used</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="92" time="10.45.54" ref="91">where do you have this figure from?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="93" time="10.46.17" ref="0">I read it on a site</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="94" time="10.46.37" ref="0">IT - 29%</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="95" time="10.46.54" ref="0">personal blogs - 38%</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="96" time="10.47.23" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="97" time="10.47.29" ref="0">it comes political,photos and business</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="98" time="10.48.24" ref="0">(#user5#), the fact that only 8% of the blogs have educational purposes proves that they are not suitable</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="99" time="10.49.02" ref="0">the qualitative insight about blogs is that they are information or entertainment-oriented</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="100" time="10.49.09" ref="0">not education-oriented</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="101" time="10.49.56" ref="0">it's very true</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="102" time="10.50.16" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="103" time="10.51.30" ref="0">great. next time, please choose Yahoo Messenger Conference. IT WORKS!</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="104" time="10.53.01" ref="0">a great idea</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="105" time="10.53.09" ref="103">a great idea</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="106" time="10.53.29" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="107" time="10.53.41" ref="0">let's stick to the topic we have to discuss</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="108" time="10.53.52" ref="0">we have seen various opinions from each of us</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="109" time="10.54.14" ref="0">it is normal to have different views, as we have different backgrounds and are selling competing products</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="110" time="10.54.34" ref="0">but maybe we are wrong in considering these products as direct competitors</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="111" time="10.54.48" ref="0">i suggest we think of an approach where we integrate them</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="112" time="10.55.08" ref="0">maybe we should see another product first</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="113" time="10.55.18" ref="0">we still have 3 alternatives that haven't been presented</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="114" time="10.55.42" ref="0">and there is more to wikis than meets the eye!</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="115" time="10.56.00" ref="0">ok, :) let s hear about wiki</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="116" time="10.56.06" ref="0">(#user1#) or (#user0#), will you present your solution?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="117" time="10.56.21" ref="0">or should I continue with mine?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="118" time="10.56.45" ref="0">continue with your solution</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="119" time="10.56.52" ref="0">go on</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="120" time="10.57.22" ref="0">ok. everyone in their life has probably been on Wikipedia at least once</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="121" time="10.57.36" ref="0">that is how a wiki was intended to look like</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="122" time="10.57.57" ref="0">an online, very large, simple and fast to edit database</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="123" time="10.58.16" ref="0">the main feature is that everyone can contribute to it</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="124" time="10.58.30" ref="123">you might think of it as a double edged sword</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="125" time="10.59.02" ref="122">but since wiki is a database, it also stores previous versions of it</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="126" time="11.00.02" ref="0">which means it's very robust to vandalism :). if there is someone out there editing pages in a wrong way</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="127" time="11.00.20" ref="0">there are millions of people all over the Globe, who have good intentions and will restore it</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="128" time="11.00.47" ref="0">pass to the advantages of using a wiki</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="129" time="11.01.10" ref="0">and this is just one of the features. think about these advantages: realtime editing!</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="130" time="11.01.38" ref="0">very fast to use, only requires to visit a webpage</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="131" time="11.01.40" ref="0">has Google and other search engines integration. just google wiki + your interest!</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="132" time="11.02.14" ref="0">sure, it uses a markup language for interesting effects, but it's very simple</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="133" time="11.02.53" ref="131">all of these 4 have very good search engines</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="134" time="11.03.01" ref="0">andthe most important thing that might make people consider this the mostviable solution is that it's opensource, and there are lots of contentmanagement systems out there that already use it</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="135" time="11.03.52" ref="0">it's all about having a fast response, or online tutorials, when working in a big company with lots of users like you</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="136" time="11.04.07" ref="0">(#user2#), I see that wikis are very good as information repository</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="137" time="11.04.13" ref="0">so, what do you think?</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="138" time="11.04.30" ref="0">wikiit's not entirely written by experts and can be changed by anyone elseso many teachers do not want their students to use wiki as a resource</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="139" time="11.04.50" ref="0">but i believe that they are not easy to use for realtime communcation betweeen people</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="140" time="11.05.03" ref="138">that's just because they would feel ofended to have students edit their mistakes :)</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="141" time="11.05.14" ref="0">it is good to use wiki but not as the only resource</Utterance> 
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- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="142" time="11.06.06" ref="0">and there are subjects thar cannot be found on wiki or subjects that only have a brief summary</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="143" time="11.06.06" ref="0">that'sright, actually. we have many tools for integrating wiki : Drupal,WebGUI, Joomla!, Writeboard, JotSpot Live! and lots more</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="144" time="11.06.56" ref="142">thatis just a matter of time. eventually, the person who searched that willfeel inclined to post a page, after he gets the answer from somewhereelse</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="145" time="11.07.32" ref="0">butfor education purposes, all the students need is to edit tutorials, andmake real-time edits to their sourcecode, for example</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="146" time="11.07.52" ref="0">for a how-to-do little programming trick, wiki is very versatile</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="147" time="11.10.01" ref="123">istill believe that wikipedians should post info about theirqualifications on a particular subject, so readres can make an informeddecision</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="148" time="11.10.19" ref="0">about using or not the info available</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="149" time="11.10.56" ref="0">let's hear about forums or chats</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="150" time="11.10.58" ref="147">it is possible to have a "signature" to sign your wikis</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="151" time="11.11.07" ref="0">but, let's see more about forums</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="152" time="11.13.15" ref="0">ok. i promote forums because they are an excellent way of sharing knowledge within an organization</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="153" time="11.13.51" ref="0">they have two great advantages</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="154" time="11.14.44" ref="0">first , the discussion isn't in real time,that means people are given time to research and consider their comments</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="155" time="11.15.26" ref="0">second, they save information posted on a particular topic for other people to see at any time</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="156" time="11.15.58" ref="0">you may think that it is hard to keep people focused on a topic</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="157" time="11.16.55" ref="0">well that is why forums have to be moderated, so they can offer quality information</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="158" time="11.18.11" ref="149">it's true, I have found very helpfull information on forums</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="159" time="11.18.32" ref="0">I appreciate the "subscribe to forum" or "subscribe to topic" functions</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="160" time="11.18.41" ref="152">i also agree, since i use a lot of forums</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="161" time="11.18.57" ref="0">also , you can receive a notification every time someone has added a comment on your post</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="162" time="11.19.02" ref="0">so you can be updated</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="163" time="11.19.42" ref="157">forum moderation puts a lot of overhead on the person behind it, though - and you do need a human to do that.</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="164" time="11.20.21" ref="0">think of 100 messages to check and agree/deny to post them</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="165" time="11.20.22" ref="0">that is true , but a forum offers some advantages</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="166" time="11.20.34" ref="0">it hapls build relathionships</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="167" time="11.20.42" ref="0">with visitors</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="168" time="11.20.58" ref="0">* helps</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="169" time="11.21.10" ref="166">yes, i like social forums :)</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="170" time="11.21.37" ref="169">try hi5 :))</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="171" time="11.21.53" ref="0">joking</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="172" time="11.22.07" ref="170">that's not even a forum :P</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="173" time="11.22.39" ref="0">(#user5#) that is off topic......</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="174" time="11.22.46" ref="0">sorry</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="175" time="11.22.54" ref="0">you can also use a forum to share a resource</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="176" time="11.23.05" ref="0">onlyproblem to forums is having too few people. you need at least 5 incharge of moderation, and at least 50 users to constantly post, or theforum will slowly die</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="177" time="11.23.11" ref="0">or a material with the group</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="178" time="11.24.09" ref="0">yes, but you can keep a forum small, you won't have to police it all the time</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="179" time="11.24.46" ref="175">resourcesharing on forums is limited, though. you can only share a link,because of upload limits. This is, however, a common problem to all oursolutions.</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="180" time="11.26.56" ref="0">frommy experience, I can say that 70% of users waste a lot of time on aforum, from their internet browsing activities, without actually doinganything else than reading a lot of posts</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="181" time="11.27.47" ref="0">true, but you can search through a forum and read only the infothat you have interest on</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="182" time="11.28.14" ref="0">replyingto a message also means checking the previous 10 in the thread, so theuser can see wether he's about to post something already there</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="183" time="11.28.38" ref="181">yeah, searching seems to be the key here</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="184" time="11.30.20" ref="0">also,keep in mind that when dealing with forums, the following internetbehaviours come into mind: forum-trolling, spamming, flamewars, andmany more</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="185" time="11.30.21" ref="182">yes, forums require some effort to maintain or to browse, but they make great educational environments</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="186" time="11.30.56" ref="0">so, i think we need to also hear about chat, before thinking of how to integrate them</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="187" time="11.31.49" ref="0">OK, i'm going to be fast</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="188" time="11.32.08" ref="0">as chat technology is not new for any of us, i will concentrate on the benefits</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="189" time="11.32.31" ref="0">as i have already said before, the main advantage is that chat is realtime</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="190" time="11.32.55" ref="0">you can set up a virtual meeting easily and discuss the subject you want</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="191" time="11.33.40" ref="0">youare going to have more interactivity and obtain faster responses onchat than any of your solutions, because people dedicate completelytheir time when they are set up in a conference</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="192" time="11.33.54" ref="0">you can have a reply on a forum or on a blog after many days</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="193" time="11.34.54" ref="0">evenif chat does not keep an archive with all topics discussed, it is greatfor people that focus on immediate answers to their problems</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="194" time="11.35.39" ref="0">ishouldn't be the one pointing this out, but chat does have archive now:). gtalk has integrated it with mail, while ymess! can save allmessages until delete</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="195" time="11.36.30" ref="194">yes, but they are not published on web automatically</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="196" time="11.36.32" ref="193">i agrre , chat is the best way to obtain immediate info</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="197" time="11.38.09" ref="191">iwouldn't say it's like this all the time. people can lose interest evenin logging online for a lot of days, or letting the messenger open, andresponding after 10h, when the message is obsolete</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="198" time="11.38.35" ref="196">but (#user0#) is right. it's the concept for which it was made</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="199" time="11.39.05" ref="0">I think using chat can result in loosing information</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="200" time="11.39.17" ref="0">*loss of info</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="201" time="11.40.49" ref="0">actually,I have encountered that every time i received messages while loggingoff. but important information is always sent on more reliablechannels, such as email, forum posts, wiki, blog</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="202" time="11.41.03" ref="0">or changing phrases very quickly can produce a misunderstanding</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="203" time="11.41.16" ref="0">* in a misunderstanding</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
  <Utterance genid="204" time="11.41.39" ref="202">chat is supposed to be fast, more relaxing, without strict language rules</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="205" time="11.42.00" ref="0">chat is great in a business environment , I always use it to obtain details ; most of the times it is faster then mail :)</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="206" time="11.42.19" ref="0">ok</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="207" time="11.42.29" ref="0">what about thinking on how we can integrate them?</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="208" time="11.42.45" ref="0">we have talked individually about the applications we provide</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="209" time="11.43.07" ref="0">ok</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="210" time="11.43.25" ref="0">I see the result of integrating all 4 will be a virtual club, pub or bar.</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="211" time="11.44.50" ref="0">The users will sit at tables ,talk about any subject they like, and listen to music in the same time</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="212" time="11.45.21" ref="0">The ambiance will also be created by photos and other effects.</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="213" time="11.45.59" ref="0">what do you think?</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="214" time="11.46.29" ref="0">you're going too far :)</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="215" time="11.46.38" ref="0">:))</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="216" time="11.47.02" ref="214">it can be a nice virtual restaurant</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="217" time="11.47.40" ref="0">with pictures, statues and good music</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="218" time="11.49.14" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="219" time="11.49.38" ref="0">ambiance is important, of course</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="220" time="11.50.04" ref="0">but it is not the main driver in an educational application</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="221" time="11.50.23" ref="0">we should think more of the functional requirements for such a hybrid application</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="222" time="11.51.23" ref="0">thefirst thing that comes to my mind is to transform a chat conferenceinto a forum topic or into a blog page, for archiving purposes</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="223" time="11.52.21" ref="221">you can make a math club</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="224" time="11.52.53" ref="0">CERC in romanian</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="225" time="11.53.39" ref="0">I think we can implement such a thing</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="226" time="11.53.54" ref="0">(#user5#), you are going too much in the "how is this application going to be used" area</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
  <Utterance genid="227" time="11.54.18" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="228" time="11.54.42" ref="0">the application we should integrate is not supposed to have limited areas of use, not only math, not only nice environment</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="229" time="11.55.05" ref="226">to be used and implemented</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="230" time="11.55.06" ref="0">let's think of the integration process and how is going this application to get build</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="231" time="11.55.14" ref="0">not how it will be used</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="232" time="11.55.18" ref="0">weshould also think of how to search through them all ; one can search aparticular topic and then choose to read only the blog</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="233" time="11.55.28" ref="0">our customers will choouse how to use it, depending on their specific needs</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="234" time="11.55.49" ref="232">an integrated search engine is a very smart thing to do</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="235" time="11.55.54" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
  <Utterance genid="236" time="11.56.43" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="237" time="11.56.45" ref="234">all of the 4 have very good search engines, it is normal that the result will have a very smart one</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="238" time="11.57.33" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="239" time="11.59.51" ref="0">another thing we should implement is interlinking</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="240" time="11.59.56" ref="0">itis best that every user to have defined a few areas of interest and toreceive at login a summary on the topics/activities related to hisareas of interest</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="241" time="12.00.11" ref="232">we could just use google search for them. it's easy to embed one of those search textboxes</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="242" time="12.00.24" ref="241">of course :)</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="243" time="12.00.47" ref="0">something about interlinking: we should put links to other communication methods in the application</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="244" time="12.01.09" ref="0">forexample, i am in a forum reading something; i should have a button"open a chat session" with the user that has written some reply</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="245" time="12.01.46" ref="243">andchat can be integrated in the webpage, synchronized with theapplication, like the newest technologies from gmail and yahoo!messenger</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="246" time="12.02.27" ref="0">the users also need an unified credential system for logging in on all solutions</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="247" time="12.03.58" ref="244">oneuser/pass for chat, another for blog, another for forum but in the end,there should be a way to store them in one place, and use the oneneeded for the specific task</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="248" time="12.04.14" ref="0">automatically</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="249" time="12.05.21" ref="0">isn't better to have only one global username, since all solutions are interlinked ?</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="250" time="12.05.58" ref="0">the users might already have existing accounts, at least on chat system</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="251" time="12.06.09" ref="249">i agree with you, (#user0#)</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="252" time="12.06.32" ref="250">we are talking about a new application, we are going to define a migration scenario for old users</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="253" time="12.08.56" ref="0">so what will be it's normal use scenario in an elearning environment?</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="254" time="12.09.12" ref="253">*its</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="255" time="12.10.59" ref="0">will it be a general purpose application, or designed for a specific purpose, like a lab</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="256" time="12.11.14" ref="0">or posting course notes</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="257" time="12.12.02" ref="0">i suggest we make it general</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="258" time="12.12.23" ref="0">and buyers will customise it for their need</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="259" time="12.13.54" ref="258">thatcan work very well with all considered solutions, because we have toolsto customize each: we have css templates and scripting engines forforums or blogs, the same for wiki, and chat has its very own emoticondatabase, audibles, imvironments</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="260" time="12.15.10" ref="0">should we continue, or keep implementation details for a future meeting, after getting a team together?</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="261" time="12.15.15" ref="241">you will reach my conclusion</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="262" time="12.16.37" ref="0">i sugges each of us makes in the following days a list with functional requirements</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="263" time="12.16.49" ref="0">most of them will derive from our discussion today</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="264" time="12.17.09" ref="0">a small plan</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="265" time="12.17.51" ref="0">sure thing. I will contact you, after a little brainstorming session</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="266" time="12.18.13" ref="0">and we meet in a week from now to put the lists together and make specifications for the platform</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="267" time="12.18.24" ref="265">I like brainstorming</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="268" time="12.18.54" ref="0">so, we will meet in about a week</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="269" time="12.20.45" ref="260">so we leave the details for a future meeting?</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="270" time="12.21.06" ref="0">yes. thank you all for coming tonight! good night, everyone</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="271" time="12.21.27" ref="0">good night</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
  <Utterance genid="272" time="12.22.02" ref="0">good night!</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
  <Utterance genid="273" time="12.22.09" ref="0">Thank you everyone! Good night!</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
  <Utterance genid="274" time="12.22.20" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
- <Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
  <Utterance genid="275" time="12.22.51" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance> 
  </Turn>
  </Body>
  </Dialog>
