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			<Utterance genid="1" time="09.49.27" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="2" time="09.54.24" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="3" time="09.58.26" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="4" time="10.01.34" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="5" time="10.02.41" ref="0">hello everyone</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="6" time="10.02.44" ref="0">hi guys, how are you all doin'?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="7" time="10.02.55" ref="0">Hello</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="8" time="10.03.16" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="9" time="10.03.20" ref="0">i'm good, just waiting to see what ideas will come out</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="10" time="10.03.43" ref="0">hmm... seems that thing on the left is actually the whiteboard</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="11" time="10.04.06" ref="0">yes indeed</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="12" time="10.04.12" ref="0">I was expecting some messages there, to much mIRC i SUPPOSE :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="13" time="10.04.43" ref="0">sorry for the CAPS</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="14" time="10.04.44" ref="0">it is a helpfull tool </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="15" time="10.05.04" ref="14">yup, it seems nice</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="16" time="10.05.07" ref="0">guys, let's be serious </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="17" time="10.05.12" ref="0">so our agenda today will be mobile learning</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="18" time="10.05.23" ref="16">yes, (#user2#), you are right</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="19" time="10.05.25" ref="0">do you find this subject interesting</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="20" time="10.05.33" ref="0">let's call it mLearning</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="21" time="10.05.37" ref="0">yes, (#user3#), please tell us :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="22" time="10.05.42" ref="0">let's get going with our mLearning stuff</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="23" time="10.06.14" ref="0">so, guys, I was reading some articles these days</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="24" time="10.06.22" ref="0">about mLearning, of course</Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="25" time="10.06.52" ref="0">and it seems there are some types of mLearning applications</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="26" time="10.07.18" ref="0">the most simple type are TUTORIALS</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="27" time="10.07.26" ref="0">how about that?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="28" time="10.08.02" ref="0">i've been through some tutorials about mlearning too</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="29" time="10.08.10" ref="0">yes I have found some allready developed applications that are really usefull </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="30" time="10.08.28" ref="0">like what?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="31" time="10.08.40" ref="28">no, (#user3#), I mean tutorials as mLearning apps not tutorials for mLearning apps</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="32" time="10.08.48" ref="0">wait, (#user0#) was talking about tutorials like mobile applications, right ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="33" time="10.08.55" ref="0">sorry</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="34" time="10.08.57" ref="0">exactly</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="35" time="10.09.03" ref="0">on m-learning.org there are some interesting things about mLearning</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="36" time="10.09.04" ref="0">you are right (#user2#)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="37" time="10.09.35" ref="0">but those apps (tutorials) are not too collaborative if I may</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="38" time="10.10.06" ref="0">so I'll get to an other type</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="39" time="10.10.08" ref="0">i've found an interesting example of collaborative mlearning on MIT site</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="40" time="10.10.09" ref="0">yes, these applications are nice and usefull but, not too interactive</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="41" time="10.10.33" ref="0">web.media.mit.edu</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="42" time="10.10.45" ref="0">and what's that about (#user3#)?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="43" time="10.10.50" ref="0">what't that ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="44" time="10.11.22" ref="0">wait, (#user1#), are you still with us?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="45" time="10.11.35" ref="41">yes, i am still here</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="46" time="10.12.06" ref="0">ok, let's see what (#user3#) has for us :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="47" time="10.12.32" ref="0">it is an application Educators and technologists alike to communicate between them</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="48" time="10.12.49" ref="0">web based ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="49" time="10.12.52" ref="0">it is an experimental E-classroom initiative</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="50" time="10.13.04" ref="49">oh, cool</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="51" time="10.13.04" ref="0">no it is not webbased</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="52" time="10.13.20" ref="0">it is developed around a pda</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="53" time="10.13.27" ref="0">connected to a server</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="54" time="10.13.46" ref="0">i don't know exactly the way they communicate</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="55" time="10.13.49" ref="0">using internet ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="56" time="10.14.07" ref="0">I think they user WiFi</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="57" time="10.14.11" ref="0">if it is in an enclosed space, they could be using bluetooth</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="58" time="10.14.16" ref="56">use, srry</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="59" time="10.15.09" ref="0">yes indeed</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="60" time="10.15.10" ref="0">so what does it do ? just sending messages using a pda ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="61" time="10.15.33" ref="0">to that server ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="62" time="25.11.20" ref="10"></Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="63" time="10.15.44" ref="0">it is a Linux-PDA hardware that allows multi-user wireless distributed wearable computing environment</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="64" time="10.16.31" ref="0">no (#user0#), there is BlueTooth and IrDa</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="65" time="10.16.53" ref="64">this is under wireless umbrella :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="66" time="10.17.21" ref="0">to answer (#user2#)'s question yes it cand send messages but also allows users to interact with diverse applications from the server</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="67" time="10.17.43" ref="0">applications like quizez?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="68" time="10.17.54" ref="0">yes, correct, I read wireless and tought about an internet connection, but it's not all about that</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="69" time="10.18.02" ref="0">yes kind of a trivia </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="70" time="10.18.11" ref="0">that's the idea </Utterance>
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			<Utterance genid="71" time="10.18.46" ref="68">yes, you are right (#user2#), I wasn't reffering to internet</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="72" time="10.19.29" ref="0">i read something about an application that allows you to take quizez like for your driver license exam, on your mobile phone</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="73" time="10.19.53" ref="0">I read about something that comes close to what (#user3#) and (#user1#) said</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="74" time="10.19.59" ref="0">it is another type og mlearning :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="75" time="10.20.02" ref="0">I read about a mobile learning application that sends quizzes using SMS </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="76" time="10.20.14" ref="0">it's called ClassRoom Response System</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="77" time="10.20.25" ref="0">so you are in class</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="78" time="10.20.42" ref="0">Connex had a long time ago a kind of service like this</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="79" time="10.20.49" ref="0">if i remember right</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="80" time="10.21.16" ref="0">the teacher has some kind of server (can be a Laptop) and the students are using PDAs to answer questions</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="81" time="10.21.19" ref="0">and you could answer some questions through sms</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="82" time="10.21.43" ref="0">yes, but imagine the costs</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="83" time="10.21.45" ref="0">and I can give you some concrete examples</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="84" time="10.21.58" ref="0">EduCue is one</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="85" time="10.22.05" ref="0">you can google it</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="86" time="10.22.16" ref="0">they offer also hardware for this</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="87" time="10.22.31" ref="0">but we are discussing software here</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="88" time="10.23.02" ref="0">you are not talking about quizez over sms, right?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="89" time="10.23.06" ref="0">i think the major problem is to find a better way for users to interact </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="90" time="10.23.23" ref="0">than sms or text messages</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="91" time="10.23.28" ref="0">so other examples are Discourse or Qwizdom</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="92" time="10.23.32" ref="0">so wait guys</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="93" time="10.23.37" ref="0">let's take one at a time</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="94" time="10.23.39" ref="84">why does a classroom what to buy hardware where you can buy an application that sends SMS using Bluetooth ?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="95" time="10.23.40" ref="0">ok</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="96" time="10.23.51" ref="0">*want</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="97" time="10.24.00" ref="0">1) we got SMS approach</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="98" time="10.24.25" ref="0">if by sms approach you mean sms over BT, then i agree</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="99" time="10.24.36" ref="0">2) we got apps which are not using SMS</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="100" time="10.24.42" ref="0">but this has to happen in a classroom</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="101" time="10.24.49" ref="0">so, (#user3#) was talking about SMS</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="102" time="10.25.47" ref="91">let's try to make a flow of the discussion by points</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="103" time="10.26.14" ref="0">ok, so let's take one point at a time</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="104" time="10.26.15" ref="0">3) there is the Bluetooth and IrDa approach :) - send data without costs</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="105" time="10.26.39" ref="0">this was 2) I was talking about :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="106" time="10.27.07" ref="0">exchange something else than sms</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="107" time="10.27.16" ref="0">the costs in the comunication with IrDa and BT is distance</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="108" time="10.28.00" ref="107">if you are talking about a classroom, then this shouldn't be a problem</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="109" time="10.28.15" ref="0">(#user3#), may I add something to that drawing?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="110" time="10.29.02" ref="0">sure please do</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="111" time="10.29.14" ref="0">and than we can follow the graph</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="112" time="10.29.19" ref="0">I want to add some examples</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="113" time="10.29.23" ref="0">concrete</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="114" time="10.32.10" ref="0">how do you add text? only with text box?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="115" time="10.32.31" ref="0">there is a textbox button</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="116" time="10.32.47" ref="0">I know, but I don't want to see the border</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="117" time="10.32.50" ref="0">the 9th from left to right</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="118" time="10.33.02" ref="0">it's not photoshop</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="119" time="10.35.12" ref="0">shall we continue with our discution?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="120" time="10.35.42" ref="0">I think (#user3#) and (#user0#) have a plan :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="121" time="10.35.47" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="122" time="10.35.53" ref="0">yes let's follow the points and add more if we find others</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="123" time="10.35.54" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="124" time="10.36.20" ref="122">we are trying to draw a roadmap :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="125" time="10.36.46" ref="0">about actual applications (#user0#) told us something</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="126" time="10.36.58" ref="0">Ok, stop now before you lose your way </Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="127" time="10.37.33" ref="0">ok</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="128" time="10.37.38" ref="0">does anyone have anything to add about actual applications?</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="129" time="10.37.40" ref="0">I will add some more later</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="130" time="10.37.54" ref="0">ok so let's detail the actual application</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="131" time="10.37.56" ref="0">s</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="132" time="10.38.09" ref="0">ok, about SkillsArena</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="133" time="10.38.40" ref="0">did u guys hear about World of USO? :)</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="134" time="10.39.03" ref="0">i've heard of it</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="135" time="10.39.07" ref="0">no i did not</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="136" time="10.39.15" ref="0">no</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="137" time="10.39.17" ref="0">but i don't know too much</Utterance>
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		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="138" time="10.39.17" ref="0">it's a game developed by some students from our faculty</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="139" time="10.39.18" ref="0">what about you (#user2#)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="140" time="10.39.39" ref="133">USO = Utilizarea Sistemelor de Operare</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="141" time="10.39.48" ref="0">1st year ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="142" time="10.39.58" ref="141">exactly</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="143" time="10.40.25" ref="0">so this is for learning porposes</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="144" time="10.40.39" ref="0">what does it do?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="145" time="10.40.46" ref="0">they can post and/or answer questions</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="146" time="10.41.00" ref="0">and they get points for the answers</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="147" time="10.41.10" ref="0">they have their own character :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="148" time="10.41.24" ref="0">they tryied to do some parallel with World of Warcraft</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="149" time="10.41.37" ref="0">anyway</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="150" time="10.41.47" ref="0">where I'm going with this</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="151" time="10.42.07" ref="0">the points are given automaticly</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="152" time="10.42.11" ref="0">or manually</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="153" time="10.42.19" ref="0">what's the method of comunication ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="154" time="10.42.52" ref="153">they use web, but my point is a learning game could be implemented on mobile devices</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="155" time="10.43.04" ref="0">SkillsArena is an example</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="156" time="10.43.54" ref="155">although this one is for math and for 2nd grade little students, but is an example</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="157" time="10.44.27" ref="0">i think the existence of a web server that gathers and sends information from/to the mobile devices is the best way yo go</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="158" time="10.44.51" ref="0">because this way you don't have the constraints of distance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="159" time="10.44.52" ref="0"></Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="160" time="10.44.57" ref="157">this is true, you need a server</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="161" time="10.45.18" ref="0">but the server could be a computer in the classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="162" time="10.45.27" ref="0">you are not bound to web actually</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="163" time="10.45.48" ref="155">any protocol can be used</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="164" time="10.45.54" ref="0">yes, but this way you have to be within signal distance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="165" time="10.46.04" ref="0">I think we can make a choise about the protocol</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="166" time="10.46.32" ref="0">but it's about the idea not the way to implement</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="167" time="10.46.34" ref="0">ok let's try to find the best protocol</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="168" time="10.46.45" ref="0">it depends what is the purpose of the application</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="169" time="10.46.49" ref="0">yes let's</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="170" time="10.46.55" ref="0">let's here some other ideas</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="171" time="10.47.11" ref="0">if you want an application that some students use</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="172" time="10.47.17" ref="0">in a classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="173" time="10.47.28" ref="0">1. classroom vs. 2. big distance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="174" time="10.47.31" ref="0">or some workers use on a construction site</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="175" time="10.47.45" ref="0">the the best way to go is bluetooth</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="176" time="10.48.08" ref="0">I was thinking about a classroom game</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="177" time="10.48.22" ref="0">but like I said, it's only an idea</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="178" time="10.48.32" ref="0">we've been talking here about mLearning and we've asociated the concept with students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="179" time="10.48.35" ref="0">the best way to make a collaborative learning efficient is to present it as a game</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="180" time="10.48.41" ref="0">are you tanking abou something like SkillsArena ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="181" time="10.48.54" ref="0">and take advantage of the competitivness in users</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="182" time="10.48.54" ref="179">exactly (#user3#)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="183" time="10.49.06" ref="0">but the fact of the matter is that mLearning is much more than just something that students can use</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="184" time="10.49.45" ref="180">not exactly like SkillsArena, but a game though </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="185" time="10.49.46" ref="0">i think that we should see what our application could do</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="186" time="10.49.55" ref="0">besides sending and receiving text</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="187" time="10.50.08" ref="0">and make it laike a game</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="188" time="10.50.10" ref="0">we can also send pictures :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="189" time="10.50.15" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="190" time="10.50.22" ref="0">sending video </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="191" time="10.50.25" ref="183">yes, (#user1#) I have examples of apps that are used by the teachers:)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="192" time="10.50.47" ref="0">for example, the ClassRoom Response System</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="193" time="10.50.50" ref="0">recording video or sound </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="194" time="10.51.19" ref="0">teacher uses it to gather answers and to see the attendance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="195" time="10.51.39" ref="0">what if someone is not a teacher or a student?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="196" time="10.52.08" ref="0">does that mean that he can't benefit from mLearning?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="197" time="10.52.15" ref="0">there should be a secure mettod to send data</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="198" time="10.52.16" ref="195">but wait, do you want a general propouse app?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="199" time="10.52.29" ref="0">and it's not quite learning but is a functionality </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="200" time="10.52.39" ref="0">(#user2#), come on, you said you got an idea, let's hear it</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="201" time="10.53.04" ref="0">i was just telling you that mLearning is not just something for schools and universities</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="202" time="10.53.16" ref="0">it was allready resumed and everything said before :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="203" time="10.53.42" ref="0">it's and idea about a client/server based application</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="204" time="10.53.54" ref="203">which does what?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="205" time="10.54.23" ref="0">that uses Bluetooth to send and recieve messages from/to a PC</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="206" time="10.54.57" ref="0">as you speak, I'm adding some other examples</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="207" time="10.55.23" ref="0">used in a classroom the students can send questions or comments to the PC </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="208" time="10.55.49" ref="0">i've got an idea</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="209" time="10.55.52" ref="0">the students have smartphones or PDA</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="210" time="10.55.53" ref="207">something like Classroome Response System, I like that</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="211" time="10.56.01" ref="0">and the professor has the PC</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="212" time="10.56.05" ref="0">yes</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="213" time="10.56.23" ref="0">why don't say what mLearning application we would like to develop?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="214" time="10.57.09" ref="0">*why don't we all say ..</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="215" time="10.57.10" ref="0">the professor can send mini quizzes to the students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="216" time="10.57.11" ref="0">that's what we are trying to detail</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="217" time="10.57.22" ref="0">and so on..</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="218" time="10.57.36" ref="0">(#user2#) just did that</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="219" time="10.57.39" ref="217">yes, I see what you mean</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="220" time="10.57.53" ref="0">it's using a custom Bluetooth protocol</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="221" time="10.58.00" ref="0">i think that an interesting thing that the students could do is to compete to some tasks given by the teacher</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="222" time="10.58.12" ref="0">so that nothing is getting in or out without knowing...</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="223" time="10.58.50" ref="221">having a framework like a that, allows you to do even that</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="224" time="10.59.10" ref="0">I mean, as teacher, to give tasks to students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="225" time="10.59.11" ref="0">i mean that the teacher can have an application and the students will have to solve some taks in an interactive way</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="226" time="10.59.24" ref="0">and I add something to this</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="227" time="10.59.25" ref="0">to animate the text :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="228" time="10.59.38" ref="0">like what ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="229" time="10.59.45" ref="0">students should be divided in teams, to increase collaboration</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="230" time="10.59.48" ref="0">like for example:</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="231" time="11.00.04" ref="0">please (#user0#) finish your idea</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="232" time="11.00.52" ref="0">yes (#user0#), collaboration should be an important fact</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="233" time="11.01.00" ref="0">but how ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="234" time="25.11.20" ref="11"></Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="235" time="11.01.50" ref="0">and this is not complicated if the teacher can organise and send messages to everyone</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="236" time="11.02.27" ref="0">like for example the teacher would have an application where the answers would be on different levels of difficulty</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="237" time="11.02.37" ref="0">this will be managed from the server</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="238" time="11.02.41" ref="0">yes</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="239" time="11.03.03" ref="0">and if a student answers one question the answer is shown to the other students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="240" time="11.03.14" ref="0">and some points are accorded </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="241" time="11.03.17" ref="0">yes, but can you have different applications?? or just different tasks ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="242" time="11.03.20" ref="0">and so on</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="243" time="11.03.36" ref="241">both are possible I think</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="244" time="11.03.36" ref="0">i think that the graphics interface is of great deal here</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="245" time="11.03.51" ref="0">because different applications mean same platform</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="246" time="11.04.04" ref="244">true.</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="247" time="11.04.49" ref="0">ok, I have an other issue to discuss if you agree</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="248" time="11.04.56" ref="0">so we can say that we would like an client server application for sharing messages and information</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="249" time="11.05.00" ref="245"></Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="250" time="11.05.50" ref="0">(#user0#), I see that you completed the drawing</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="251" time="11.06.03" ref="250">actually I got more</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="252" time="11.06.05" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="253" time="11.06.06" ref="0">but</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="254" time="11.06.08" ref="223">why would'n we want access to some information besides the one we exchange with messages ?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="255" time="11.06.21" ref="0">let me tell you about the virus game</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="256" time="11.06.30" ref="0">do youwant to hear about it?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="257" time="11.06.36" ref="0">sure</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="258" time="11.06.44" ref="0">so imagine some students in a classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="259" time="11.07.04" ref="0">we're still on students in a classroom :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="260" time="11.07.12" ref="0">each one has a mobile device capable to communicate with other devices</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="261" time="11.07.25" ref="0">and they are simulating a virus</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="262" time="11.07.32" ref="0">and here is how they do that</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="263" time="11.07.45" ref="0">they actually get together and talk</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="264" time="11.07.50" ref="0">in different groups</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="265" time="11.08.11" ref="0">like we are now, except we are not in a classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="266" time="11.08.16" ref="0">and at the beginnig, one student carries the virus :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="267" time="11.08.53" ref="0">and as they get close and speak, the application on their devices, using an algorith, passes the virus from one to an other</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="268" time="11.09.20" ref="0">interesting</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="269" time="11.09.25" ref="0">and they observe and try to understand the evolution of the virus</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="270" time="11.09.32" ref="0">they talk about it</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="271" time="11.09.41" ref="0">nice and catchy :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="272" time="11.09.42" ref="0">it seemed interesting, as I read</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="273" time="11.09.58" ref="0">can they do anything to stop this virus?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="274" time="11.10.16" ref="0">i mean , can they team up against it somehow?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="275" time="11.10.26" ref="0">is not really applicable in a student classroom i think</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="276" time="11.10.29" ref="0">yes, this was one of the ideas</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="277" time="11.10.35" ref="0">but is interesting as idea</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="278" time="11.10.36" ref="0">and I got an other one</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="279" time="11.10.47" ref="0">do you want to here it?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="280" time="11.10.53" ref="0">sure</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="281" time="11.11.01" ref="0">yes please </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="282" time="11.11.02" ref="0">you see there on the whiteboard</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="283" time="11.11.08" ref="0">environmental detectives</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="284" time="11.11.21" ref="0">it's something similar, but this was more complex</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="285" time="11.11.22" ref="0">does it envolve students in a classroom?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="286" time="11.11.36" ref="0">actually this was performed in open space</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="287" time="11.11.53" ref="0">this comes the problem (#user1#) was referring to</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="288" time="11.11.56" ref="0">distance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="289" time="11.12.06" ref="0">anyway, the game was like this</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="290" time="11.12.32" ref="0">some area was contaminated (virtually) with some toxic substance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="291" time="11.13.04" ref="0">and using PDAs with GPS, they had to investigate and to find the source of the contaminantion</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="292" time="11.13.37" ref="0">they had to take water samples and to ask questions around</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="293" time="11.13.46" ref="0">anyway, that seemed interesting too</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="294" time="11.13.49" ref="0">a great example of mlearning can be found on the mLearnig Consortium website http://www.mcgrawhill.ca/college/mlearning/</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="295" time="11.14.11" ref="0">it presents an actual application for classroom e learning</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="296" time="25.11.20" ref="11"></Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="297" time="11.14.12" ref="294">ok, I'll write that down</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="298" time="11.14.31" ref="296">yup, something like that</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="299" time="11.14.48" ref="0">it shows a real classroom mlearning example</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="300" time="11.15.00" ref="0">and one can see the application on a simulated pda</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="301" time="11.15.46" ref="0">there are quizes, raports, jurnal entries</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="302" time="11.16.03" ref="0">but the text graphics is dull</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="303" time="11.16.16" ref="294">interesting</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="304" time="11.16.38" ref="0">i think that an animated interface gives another feel to a learning application</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="305" time="11.16.39" ref="294">learning shouldn't be cute, but not dull either</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="306" time="11.16.44" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="307" time="11.16.50" ref="0">yes indeed</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="308" time="11.17.24" ref="0">what do you think about implementing a voice commnand in the mlearning application</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="309" time="11.17.25" ref="0">you got to attract the student, to involve him, to make him interested</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="310" time="11.17.30" ref="0">the cost are really low</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="311" time="11.18.03" ref="0">yes here we can use the latest technology</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="312" time="11.18.12" ref="0">this thing with voice command involves grammars</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="313" time="11.18.13" ref="0">voice recognition, face recognition,</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="314" time="11.18.35" ref="0">simple commands just make an application more interesting</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="315" time="11.18.51" ref="313">how do you plan to integrate the recognition?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="316" time="11.18.58" ref="294">face recognition implies some complicated algorithms, i think</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="317" time="11.19.14" ref="0">not very sutable for mobiles, right now</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="318" time="11.19.16" ref="0">I have to remind you that mobile devices are poor in resources</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="319" time="11.19.30" ref="0">some good neural networks already trained for this are available in the open source community</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="320" time="11.19.47" ref="316">no, I know about some applications that use OCR on servers</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="321" time="11.19.52" ref="0">yes i know this cannot be done on a smart phone</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="322" time="11.20.02" ref="0">but on a pda i think is possible</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="323" time="11.20.20" ref="0">actually I developed an application that was targeting mobile devices... it was about license plate recognition</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="324" time="11.20.25" ref="0">involving OCR</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="325" time="11.20.30" ref="0">uploading the imagine on a server and then applying the OCR on the server</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="326" time="11.20.30" ref="0">the cost are low..</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="327" time="11.20.41" ref="0">it would be easyer to take the picture, send it to the server for procesing and get the results back</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="328" time="11.21.04" ref="0">anyway, on PC worked fine enough, but when porting to mobile, there are problems</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="329" time="11.21.09" ref="0">the cost involes only the software and a better mic</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="330" time="11.21.11" ref="323">mlearning related ? </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="331" time="11.21.24" ref="327">exactly, (#user1#), that was the approach</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="332" time="11.21.53" ref="0">anyway, that had nothing to do with mlearning, let's get back to the subject</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="333" time="11.22.10" ref="0">tell us about Savannah</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="334" time="11.22.21" ref="0">yes, that is the funniest</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="335" time="11.22.58" ref="333">Savannah was a project for mLearning also implemented in open space, in Africa actually</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="336" time="11.23.36" ref="0">I mean, they were simulating an african landscape, and the students were lions :)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="337" time="11.23.52" ref="0">it sounds silly, I know</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="338" time="11.24.44" ref="0">but they used also GPS and PDAs</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="339" time="11.25.07" ref="334">interesting</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="340" time="11.25.08" ref="0">and they got instructions like :"You are hungry" or "You need to sleep"</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="341" time="11.25.13" ref="0">and so on</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="342" time="11.25.21" ref="0">very interesting</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="343" time="11.25.36" ref="0">the application behind that was simulating the life of lions</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="344" time="11.25.43" ref="0">what was the purpose of the application?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="345" time="11.25.51" ref="0">and students, performing some tasks were learning</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="346" time="11.25.55" ref="0">to teach students about lions?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="347" time="11.25.56" ref="0">simulating the life of lions</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="348" time="11.26.02" ref="0">not only that</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="349" time="11.26.22" ref="0">they had to interract, to think about how to perform some of the actions</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="350" time="11.26.51" ref="0">anyway, it was an other example of collaboration</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="351" time="11.27.06" ref="0">in any case in order to make an application that is usefull pdas and a server is needed</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="352" time="11.27.07" ref="0">so, guys, what do you say, should we draw some conclusions?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="353" time="11.27.11" ref="0">are needed</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="354" time="11.27.26" ref="351">I agree with (#user3#) on this one</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="355" time="11.27.26" ref="0">ok, the fact of the matter is that the "m" in mLearning stands for "Mobile"</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="356" time="11.27.52" ref="355">yes, but having a server doesn't mean you aren't mobile</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="357" time="11.27.57" ref="0">PDA + LAPTO{P</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="358" time="11.28.01" ref="0">in the worst case you cand have a laptop</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="359" time="11.28.23" ref="0">yes, but students in a classroom are not exactly mobile</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="360" time="11.28.46" ref="0">they are in the big picture</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="361" time="11.28.53" ref="0">yes Mugur but the "mobile" means that we can get out of the classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="362" time="11.28.53" ref="0">i think a server is a must</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="363" time="11.29.17" ref="0">ok, so do we have some conclusions?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="364" time="11.29.24" ref="0">but not very far away if you comunicate with BT or IrDa </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="365" time="11.29.25" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="366" time="11.29.31" ref="0">I see it like this</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="367" time="11.29.44" ref="0">PDA + laptop</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="368" time="11.29.49" ref="0">we have a server managed by the teacher</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="369" time="11.30.06" ref="0">with differrent multiuser applications on it</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="370" time="11.30.07" ref="0">and we have mobile devices for the students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="371" time="11.30.24" ref="369">that's correct</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="372" time="11.30.45" ref="0">communicating with the server and also even other information servers</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="373" time="11.30.53" ref="0">like a linux server</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="374" time="11.31.04" ref="0">and there is the your framework</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="375" time="11.31.23" ref="0">an on top of this framework, you run some applications</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="376" time="11.31.23" ref="0">yes the framework is of greatest importance</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="377" time="11.31.32" ref="0">an some ideas are:</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="378" time="11.31.41" ref="0">my idea of mLearning is a server somewhere and mobile devices for the students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="379" time="11.31.47" ref="0">solving tasks in collaborative mode</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="380" time="11.31.56" ref="0">the students are NOT necesarely in the classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="381" time="11.32.02" ref="0">playing an instructive game</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="382" time="11.32.43" ref="0">watching interactive simulations</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="383" time="11.32.52" ref="0">collaborative way</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="384" time="11.33.45" ref="380">ok, (#user1#), I got your point, but the distance introduces some problems</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="385" time="11.33.48" ref="0">the graphics interface is very important</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="386" time="11.34.02" ref="0">I'm not saying it has to be only in classroom</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="387" time="11.34.11" ref="0">for every problem there is a solution</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="388" time="11.34.17" ref="385">not really, the IDEA should be catchy </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="389" time="11.34.35" ref="0">indeed every door has it's key</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="390" time="11.35.00" ref="0">anyway, let's see, is there anything else to add</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="391" time="11.35.10" ref="0">I mean in terms of ideas of applications</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="392" time="11.36.32" ref="0">we've talked only about applications that involve students and teachers</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="393" time="11.36.59" ref="392">do you have something else in mind?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="394" time="11.38.04" ref="0">the concept of mLearning can be extended to employee training, awareness campaigns, adult and community learning, etc.</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="395" time="11.38.24" ref="0">it is an interesting approach to see also these aspects but we are students</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="396" time="11.38.51" ref="394">I totally agree, (#user1#), but I too was thinking of this for a student's point of view</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="397" time="11.39.03" ref="0">we will soon be engineers</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="398" time="11.39.04" ref="0">and we can make an application for us</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="399" time="11.39.09" ref="0">let's make this discussion some other time, what do you say?</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="400" time="11.39.19" ref="0">knowing the best what we need </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="401" time="11.39.32" ref="0">yes sure</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="402" time="11.39.38" ref="0">ok, i agree</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="403" time="11.39.47" ref="0">and when we will be engineers we will worry about other types of mlearning applications</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="404" time="11.39.51" ref="399">I mean extending to other environment than school</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="405" time="11.40.10" ref="0">yes sure</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="406" time="11.40.48" ref="0">it was an interesting and helpfull discussion</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="407" time="11.40.54" ref="0">thank you everyone</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="408" time="11.41.10" ref="0">yes, it was nice talking to you guys</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="409" time="11.41.16" ref="0">it has a good brainstorming session ;)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="410" time="11.41.27" ref="0">let's hope we will use our ideas </Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="411" time="11.41.28" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
			<Utterance genid="412" time="11.41.35" ref="0">good night and good luck</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
			<Utterance genid="413" time="11.41.47" ref="0">bye</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
			<Utterance genid="414" time="11.42.06" ref="0">Bye</Utterance>
		</Turn>
		<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
			<Utterance genid="415" time="11.42.08" ref="0">bye-bye guys</Utterance>
		</Turn>
	</Body>
</Dialog>

