
	<Dialog team="10" file="">
		<Participants/>
		<Topics/>
		<Body>
			<Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
				<Utterance genid="1" time="05.04.54" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
				<Utterance genid="2" time="05.05.01" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
				<Utterance genid="3" time="05.05.24" ref="2">reference test</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user5#)">
				<Utterance genid="4" time="05.05.45" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user7#)">
				<Utterance genid="5" time="10.55.19" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user7#)">
				<Utterance genid="6" time="10.55.53" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user6#)">
				<Utterance genid="7" time="09.26.22" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user6#)">
				<Utterance genid="8" time="09.27.15" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="9" time="09.45.13" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="10" time="09.49.25" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="11" time="09.52.02" ref="0">re-schedule for saturday 1 of december at 14:00.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="12" time="09.52.06" ref="0">i have spoken</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="13" time="09.52.32" ref="0">ok</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="14" time="09.52.37" ref="0"/>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="15" time="09.52.38" ref="0"/>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="16" time="09.52.57" ref="12">i like to speak... sometimes. sometimes to listen.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="17" time="09.53.15" ref="0">this is just post incrementation.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="18" time="09.53.32" ref="0">and finger flexing</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="19" time="09.55.09" ref="0">so who begins?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="20" time="09.55.20" ref="0">i'll guess we must roll dice</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="21" time="09.55.42" ref="0">and the lucky guy/girl with the smallest value will begin.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="22" time="09.55.43" ref="0">:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="23" time="10.41.13" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="24" time="10.42.14" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="25" time="02.14.28" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="26" time="02.15.23" ref="21">testinh</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="27" time="02.15.34" ref="0">testing:P</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="28" time="02.18.14" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="29" time="02.19.58" ref="0">hello (#user0#)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="30" time="02.22.08" ref="0">hi, (#user4#)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="31" time="02.22.39" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="32" time="02.22.52" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="33" time="02.23.29" ref="0">hello, everybody!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="34" time="02.23.43" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="35" time="02.23.46" ref="0">I'm glad to have you all here</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="36" time="02.24.20" ref="0">hi everybody</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="37" time="02.24.36" ref="0">look, a disadvantage of chat: it's hard to schedule :))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="38" time="02.24.55" ref="0">so, we've gathered here today to discuss the pros and cons of forums, chats, blogs and wikis?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="39" time="02.25.45" ref="0">yup, that's right</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="40" time="02.25.53" ref="0">personally I'm a fan of blogs</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="41" time="02.26.17" ref="40">interesting. i am an avid user and supporter of weeb forums.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="42" time="02.26.17" ref="0">blogs seem to be a very usefull web instrument</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="43" time="02.27.02" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="44" time="02.27.19" ref="0">finally</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="45" time="02.27.20" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="46" time="02.27.23" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="47" time="02.27.33" ref="0">welcome back!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="48" time="02.28.18" ref="0">i would like to talk about the wikis</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="49" time="02.28.53" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="50" time="02.28.54" ref="48">wikis? blogs are better:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="51" time="02.29.20" ref="0">i think that blogs are too personal</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="52" time="02.29.31" ref="0"/>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="53" time="02.29.44" ref="50">and present only the owners point of view</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="54" time="02.30.02" ref="0">let me present you a few things about blogs</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="55" time="02.30.14" ref="50">but present only the owner's point of view</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="56" time="02.31.02" ref="0">the main idea is that the peson who started the blog adds some articles about certain subjects and readers comment upon the article</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="57" time="02.31.16" ref="0">that's the beauty of blogs</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="58" time="02.31.39" ref="0">chats, forums and wikis are also "personal"</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="59" time="02.31.42" ref="56">isn't that too restrictive?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="60" time="02.32.24" ref="0">no, because in blogs you can give feedback</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="61" time="02.32.31" ref="0">in comments</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="62" time="02.33.06" ref="60">yes, but you are restricted to the topics chosen by the owner</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="63" time="02.33.10" ref="60">besides this, blogs are so easy to create</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="64" time="02.33.34" ref="0">you don't need a programmer to create a blog, anyone can do this</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="65" time="02.33.44" ref="63">can you explain a little about who can someone set up a blog?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="66" time="02.33.48" ref="0">you have templates to choose from</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="67" time="02.34.59" ref="0">your only concern is what you write in in</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="68" time="02.35.30" ref="65">I've talked about templates</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="69" time="02.35.42" ref="0">blogs are also easy to maintain</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="70" time="02.35.52" ref="0">they are the best thing ever:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="71" time="02.35.58" ref="0">what can you do when users that comment on posts spam and flame the blog?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="72" time="02.36.16" ref="0">the administrator can delete the comments</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="73" time="02.36.53" ref="0">and many blogs host are free</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="74" time="02.37.15" ref="72">so, the admin of the blog is some sort of a god. if he doesn't like a comment he hust deletes it</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="75" time="02.37.36" ref="0">ok</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="76" time="02.37.44" ref="0">i'll go with chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="77" time="02.37.46" ref="74">sort of</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="78" time="02.37.58" ref="0">so what is chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="79" time="02.38.07" ref="76">can a chat replace a blog?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="80" time="02.38.19" ref="0">ok, let's hear about chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="81" time="02.38.28" ref="0">a chat i a real time conversion between many computer users</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="82" time="02.38.30" ref="0">I'm not fond of chats</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="83" time="02.38.56" ref="0">all participants must be in front of their computer at the same time</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="84" time="02.39.10" ref="81">it can get very crowded. evereyone talking over each other</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="85" time="02.39.17" ref="82">because the participants need to schedule to meet at a certain time</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="86" time="02.39.22" ref="0">the chat will take place in a chat room, a virtual online room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="87" time="02.39.47" ref="85">this takes too much time</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="88" time="02.39.53" ref="83">what if they live in differnet time zones? i think a forum is a much better solution</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="89" time="02.40.34" ref="0">forums? oh, no way</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="90" time="02.40.41" ref="0">in the chat you just talk</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="91" time="02.40.44" ref="0">takes to much time and effort to create</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="92" time="02.40.57" ref="88">and maintain</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="93" time="02.41.00" ref="0">you can't save any information</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="94" time="02.41.10" ref="93">exactly</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="95" time="02.41.45" ref="0">in wikis everyone write and update the text</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="96" time="02.41.50" ref="91">forums? hard to create? not really. you can choose a safe and easy path: forum templates.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="97" time="02.42.13" ref="96">like phpbb</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="98" time="02.42.14" ref="96">you have to create a lot of topics for discussion</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="99" time="02.42.22" ref="0">it is free and easy to set up and use</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="100" time="02.42.40" ref="98">and you have to promote the forum because nobody posts on an empty forum</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="101" time="02.42.46" ref="0">sorry (#user2#). i didn't see your comments.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="102" time="02.43.10" ref="0">because people enter a forum based on the topics and, very important, number of posts</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="103" time="02.43.23" ref="93">so you say wikis are a great way to store knowledge, right?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="104" time="02.44.33" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="105" time="02.44.34" ref="103"/>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="106" time="02.44.38" ref="0">yes</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="107" time="02.44.59" ref="0">great lag</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="108" time="02.45.09" ref="0">as i said everyone can contribute</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="109" time="02.45.16" ref="107">must be your internet connection. :P</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="110" time="02.45.22" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="111" time="02.45.32" ref="0">i changed it</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="112" time="02.45.50" ref="108">a common knowledge base where everyone can contribute a little.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="113" time="02.46.01" ref="0">why wikis?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="114" time="02.46.12" ref="113">sound nice</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="115" time="02.46.23" ref="0">are easy to create</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="116" time="02.46.51" ref="0">are very well structured</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="117" time="02.46.59" ref="115">easy to create, but information is very disorganised</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="118" time="02.47.09" ref="0">how is the data stored on wikis? palin html? php and mysql?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="119" time="02.47.19" ref="116">they are not so well structured</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="120" time="02.47.33" ref="118">i meant plain html, sorry</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="121" time="02.51.50" ref="118">php, (#user2#)?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="122" time="02.51.51" ref="0"/>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="123" time="02.53.01" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="124" time="02.54.50" ref="0">so shall i continue with my chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="125" time="02.55.05" ref="0">Users type their messages, and their messages appear</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="126" time="02.55.20" ref="0">on the monitor as text entries that scroll many screens deep</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="127" time="02.55.47" ref="0">Anywhere from 2 to 200 people can be in a chat room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="128" time="02.55.55" ref="126">interesting</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="129" time="02.56.02" ref="0">They can freely send, receive and reply to messages from</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="130" time="02.56.10" ref="0">many chat users simultaneously</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="131" time="02.56.18" ref="0">It is like instant messaging</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="132" time="02.56.24" ref="127">lots of people. how is possible to keep track of a conversation?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="133" time="02.56.32" ref="0">but with more than two people, fast typing, fast</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="134" time="02.56.36" ref="118">yes, with php</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="135" time="02.56.42" ref="0">scrolling screens, and most of the people are strangers to each other</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="136" time="02.56.46" ref="131">it's hard for so many people to meet in a chat at the sime time</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="137" time="02.57.02" ref="0">depends on the chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="138" time="02.57.02" ref="0">same time, I meant</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="139" time="02.57.15" ref="0">take our example</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="140" time="02.57.22" ref="0">if it's about school or work thats for sure</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="141" time="02.57.27" ref="135">i guess the need to meet new people is behind the chat.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="142" time="02.57.31" ref="0">it took some time untill we all met in this chat..</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="143" time="02.57.51" ref="0">exactly my point</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="144" time="02.58.28" ref="0">so in chat people can freely send, receive and reply to messages from many chat users simultaneously</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="145" time="02.58.50" ref="130">what if some user spam the chat room? you will ignore them? or you can take actions against them?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="146" time="02.59.03" ref="0">if youre the administrator</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="147" time="02.59.09" ref="0">you can ban that person</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="148" time="02.59.21" ref="144">can they go and discuss in private?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="149" time="02.59.23" ref="144">are these conversations recorded?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="150" time="02.59.53" ref="0">not of my knoledge</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="151" time="03.00.08" ref="0">but i think they can be</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="152" time="03.00.18" ref="0">logged into a database</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="153" time="03.00.36" ref="0">if needed</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="154" time="03.00.52" ref="150">that's a disadvantage</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="155" time="03.01.28" ref="0">who can access hte chat room? anyone?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="156" time="03.01.43" ref="0">you need an account for the chat room?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="157" time="03.01.43" ref="0">you can use a password</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="158" time="03.01.53" ref="0">to restrict the acess</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="159" time="03.02.05" ref="0">or make it public for everybody</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="160" time="03.02.09" ref="144">chats are for a small group of people</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="161" time="03.02.46" ref="160">i think this too, because with large groups of people you can;t keep up with the conversations</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="162" time="03.02.51" ref="0">In a chat room you can type in things as they come out of your brain and even stuff that does not make sense as it is a forum of communcation.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="163" time="03.03.11" ref="0">what do you do if you have lag in a chat? you may be missunderstood</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="164" time="03.03.27" ref="0">But it is really not a chat room where you post just half of a sentence and hit SAVE and 10 minutes later if someone looks at what you did write, it makes no sense at all and wastes other people tim</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="165" time="03.05.51" ref="0">in forums is difficult to find the information</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="166" time="03.06.40" ref="165">we can debate on that. :)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="167" time="03.06.59" ref="0">you have to read many topics</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="168" time="03.07.06" ref="0">yes, information is unstructured in forums and chats</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="169" time="03.07.06" ref="0">and not all are relevant</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="170" time="03.07.41" ref="168">and wikis , too</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="171" time="03.08.12" ref="0">in a wiki you can add links to other pages</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="172" time="03.08.53" ref="171">you can do this in blogs</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="173" time="03.09.25" ref="172">in forums too</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="174" time="03.09.39" ref="0">and you can advetise in chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="175" time="03.09.40" ref="0">:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="176" time="03.10.02" ref="174">you can also advertise in blogs</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="177" time="03.10.03" ref="174">yeah. chats have a big problem. spam and flame</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="178" time="03.10.50" ref="177">maybe i/m not interested to find out every two minutes about that small child with a brain tumor that will be saved if we forward a certian message</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="179" time="03.11.25" ref="0">:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="180" time="03.11.57" ref="0">so, everybody, let me introduce shortly what i think is the oldest and most mature technology/application around: web forums</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="181" time="03.12.00" ref="0">so in chat you can also</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="182" time="03.12.05" ref="0">send instant files</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="183" time="03.12.18" ref="0">get acces to voice over ip</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="184" time="03.12.21" ref="0">like yahoo</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="185" time="03.12.25" ref="0">or skype</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="186" time="03.12.31" ref="182">a "cool" way to get a computer virus, with no doubt!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="187" time="03.12.55" ref="180">tell us about forums, (#user4#)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="188" time="03.13.12" ref="182">and this can open the door to piracy! it is against the law!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="189" time="03.14.05" ref="187">so forums have been around in one form or another since the beginning of first computer networks</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="190" time="03.14.52" ref="0">User groups or online forums were created specifically to build community on the Web around some specific interest or concern.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="191" time="03.15.29" ref="190">subjects ranging from sex and religion to cooking and bird watching</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="192" time="03.15.55" ref="0">online forums are not just for technical folks, they can be used by any subset of users</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="193" time="03.16.16" ref="192">unlike wikis in my oppionion which tend to be more formal and sophisticated</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="194" time="03.17.04" ref="0">another important fact is that on a web forum you must create a user or avatar.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="195" time="03.17.23" ref="0">and you have certain rules you must comply with.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="196" time="03.17.35" ref="0">forums are not so easy to promote</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="197" time="03.17.48" ref="0">nobody enters on an empty forum</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="198" time="03.17.58" ref="0">if you don't promote it, you have nothing..</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="199" time="03.18.08" ref="195">and you will pay in some form if you go against the rules. this is what special users called moderators do.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="200" time="03.18.43" ref="0">if it isn't moderated you can get a lot of spam</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="201" time="03.19.01" ref="199">and moderators watch the posts and can warn and ban users that don't behave</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="202" time="03.19.09" ref="201">it's not so easy to maintain, too..</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="203" time="03.19.32" ref="202">the administrator has to filter all the posts</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="204" time="03.19.43" ref="202">yes, but we have multiple moderators. and this is their job.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="205" time="03.20.02" ref="203">yes, but all modern forums have a search function</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="206" time="03.20.09" ref="0">which is easy to use</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="207" time="03.20.09" ref="204">expensive</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="208" time="03.20.41" ref="203">and besides messages can be displyed in threaded view or in chronological view. so it' s verey easy to filter new posts</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="209" time="03.20.53" ref="207">what is expensive?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="210" time="03.20.55" ref="0">so people wich don't have anything else better to do moderate a forum</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="211" time="03.20.56" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="212" time="03.21.22" ref="210">exactly:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="213" time="03.21.43" ref="210">not really. it's the regular joe, like you and me. a guy that has become addicted to the community the forum tends to create</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="214" time="03.22.12" ref="0">i'm not addicted to anything</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="215" time="03.23.31" ref="0">with forums users can create profiles and also exchange personal messages between them, much like chats</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="216" time="03.24.38" ref="0">ohhh and one more thing. recently rss feeds have become available with forum software. so that it is much more easier than before to follow the new discussions</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="217" time="03.24.38" ref="0">how about developing a document..</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="218" time="03.24.57" ref="217">using a forum?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="219" time="03.25.12" ref="0">on forums you just post and replay</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="220" time="03.25.42" ref="215">and personalize every aspect of the profile and even the forum interface</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="221" time="03.26.02" ref="219">on specific subjects. but the posts tend to be rather short</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="222" time="03.26.09" ref="0">on a wiki everyone can add text to your article</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="223" time="03.27.14" ref="0">in a forum you develop a subject</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="224" time="03.28.12" ref="223">everybody can develop their own subjects</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="225" time="03.28.12" ref="0">ok lets talj about integration</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="226" time="03.28.19" ref="222">that's a good point</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="227" time="03.28.39" ref="224">and members reply on their own schedule, and do not need to be present while you are sending. it is not live</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="228" time="03.29.05" ref="0">so you can get all this integrated</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="229" time="03.29.11" ref="225">i'm glad that everybody udnerstands that all our products have thier strong points</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="230" time="03.29.17" ref="0">for example a learning center</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="231" time="03.29.39" ref="230">in a form of a web content management system?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="232" time="03.31.01" ref="231">it will be an application that will integrate a forum, a chat, a blog and a wiki.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="233" time="03.31.28" ref="0">yes forum for deadlines</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="234" time="03.31.30" ref="229">all our products have adavntages and disadvantages, let's think about how we can use them better</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="235" time="03.31.33" ref="0">announcemnts</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="236" time="03.32.01" ref="0">maybe a wiki will be the base</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="237" time="03.32.10" ref="232">forums can be developed using simple and powefull tools, like php and mysql. what about wikis, blogs and chat?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="238" time="03.32.12" ref="0">chat for saying hello to your buddies</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="239" time="03.32.30" ref="0">chat they can be developed in java</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="240" time="03.32.36" ref="0">Ajax</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="241" time="03.32.48" ref="237">can we work on the foundation using php and mysql?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="242" time="03.33.33" ref="0">that is going to be the base of it</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="243" time="03.33.54" ref="239">java will be the base?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="244" time="03.33.59" ref="0">no</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="245" time="03.34.04" ref="0">php and sql</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="246" time="03.34.17" ref="0">blogs can e used for posting homeworks</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="247" time="03.34.28" ref="0">you can get feedback using comments</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="248" time="03.35.01" ref="NaN"/>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="249" time="03.35.12" ref="0">and instant feedback using chat</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="250" time="03.35.35" ref="246">or maybe as homepages for the users</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="251" time="03.36.30" ref="249">like people calling each other to lunch, coffee or cigarrette break!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="252" time="03.36.52" ref="0">true true</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="253" time="03.37.43" ref="0">and we can use the forum for general discussions. divide on domains of activity. like a forum for marketing people. another one for the guys in IT department, etc</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="254" time="03.40.39" ref="251">and the wiki can be a general knowledge-base with "how-to" tutorials for example.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="255" time="03.41.43" ref="0">All of these synchronous and asynchronous messaging techniques have their pros and cons</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="256" time="03.42.14" ref="255">but we can integrate them together.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="257" time="03.42.46" ref="0">maybe on the next homework</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="258" time="03.42.47" ref="0">:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="259" time="03.42.49" ref="256">They each offer a different flavor of online communications.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="260" time="03.42.49" ref="256">for example we can look at similar technologies, like sharepoint from microsoft</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="261" time="03.42.52" ref="0">:))</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="262" time="03.43.26" ref="259">and binding them together we can offer a complete user experience.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="263" time="03.44.11" ref="0">so all that said</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="264" time="03.44.24" ref="262">let's find out a name for the future product!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="265" time="03.44.25" ref="0">and looking at the time</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="266" time="03.44.40" ref="0">i think we can call it a day</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="267" time="03.45.10" ref="0">and go celebrate 1 December</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="268" time="03.45.39" ref="0">I guess we have reached all the important things about these technologies</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="269" time="03.45.53" ref="268">i think we deed</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="270" time="03.46.01" ref="0">yes</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="271" time="03.46.13" ref="0">so nice talking to you</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="272" time="03.46.15" ref="0">bye</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="273" time="03.46.25" ref="268">and i think we can develop a complete product with a real chance on the market</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="274" time="03.46.27" ref="0">that you for your collaboration</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="275" time="03.46.38" ref="0">thank you all!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="276" time="03.46.44" ref="272">bye. bye!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="277" time="03.46.45" ref="0">i understand</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="278" time="03.46.48" ref="0">Thank you!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="279" time="03.46.52" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="280" time="03.47.03" ref="0">have fun!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user4#)">
				<Utterance genid="281" time="03.47.40" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
		</Body>
	</Dialog>