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				<Utterance genid="1" time="07.51.30" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="2" time="07.53.41" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="3" time="07.56.25" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="4" time="07.56.41" ref="0">joins the room</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="5" time="07.56.56" ref="0">hello everybody</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="6" time="07.57.08" ref="0">hello!</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="7" time="07.57.14" ref="0">hello</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="8" time="07.57.17" ref="5">hellow</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="9" time="07.57.35" ref="0">so who wants to start? :P</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="10" time="07.58.10" ref="0">let everybody say first the intrument he/she represents</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="11" time="07.58.44" ref="0">i'm representing the chat technology</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="12" time="07.59.11" ref="0">I'm representing the Blog</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="13" time="07.59.54" ref="0">i'm here to promote the forums</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="14" time="08.00.03" ref="0">my favorite tonight is wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="15" time="08.03.27" ref="9">so, who want's to start?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="16" time="08.04.07" ref="NaN">i'll tell you a little bit about my company. we offer chat services for those companies who want to use a chat room to keep in touch with their customers and offer live support</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="17" time="08.04.48" ref="15">let's hear about your company (#user2#)</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="18" time="08.05.49" ref="17">my company offers full blog services for companies that try to promote their products over the internet, but also for communication inside the company</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="19" time="08.06.32" ref="0">as we all know blogs have potential to help the organization develop stronger relationships and brand loyalty with its customers, as they interact with the human face of the organization through blogs.</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="20" time="08.07.48" ref="19">my service allows the client to interact directly and live with the company. this way the customer recieves an instant response to their questions or problems</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="21" time="08.09.11" ref="0">yes, that is a really good feedback, but also, blogs can be a positive way of getting feedback, and keeping your finger on the pulse, as readers react to certain pieces, suggest story ideas</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="22" time="08.09.59" ref="0">also, for ecommerce businesses, live chat is a strategy for reducing shopping-cart abandonment which, from recent research conducted by www.marketingsherpa.com, averages 59.8 percent. Live chat extends communication opportunities between buyer and seller while maximizing the customers overall satisfaction with their website experience.</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="23" time="08.10.39" ref="0">in a blog the custommers cand leave comments but they will recieve an answer to their comments much later than they would recieve in a live chat</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="24" time="08.11.36" ref="0">but before we argument more maybe we should hear about the other two companies</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="25" time="08.12.06" ref="23">you are right, but a blog is considerred more a long-term "good" for the health of the organization</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="26" time="08.12.41" ref="0">maybe both a blog and live chat are necessary to keep in touch withyour customer</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="27" time="08.12.42" ref="24">my company offers a forum based sollution for online communication because forums are the vrey well structured and a good source of documentation</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="28" time="08.13.50" ref="0">everyone can ask a question on a forum and the answers are available for everyone that faced the same problem</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="29" time="08.14.35" ref="0">yes but sometimes people don't want to register to another forum to get answers for their questions. i know i don't want to have 1000 forum accounts</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="30" time="08.15.45" ref="27">the forum in an online communication that is very hard to structure, the administrator has to keep track of every post and thread on the forum, and that is a hard job</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="31" time="08.16.33" ref="28">also sometimes it is hard to find information on a forum that has lots of subforums and topics</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="32" time="08.17.05" ref="30">that-s true, but the forum offer the possibility of highlighting only the new messages making it easier for an administrator</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="33" time="08.18.03" ref="31">if the forum is well-organized, that shouldn't be a problem</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="34" time="08.18.11" ref="32">that's a feature that the blog also has using rss feader</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="35" time="08.19.16" ref="33">but you know that is very hard to organize the forum?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="36" time="08.19.58" ref="0">succesful forums are forums with thousands of users and topics... that's really hard to modarate and organise</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="37" time="08.22.16" ref="15">my company is the owner and developer of a very well known wiki integrated system. our main activity is based around the web based wiki system with different web technologies as php, javascript, asp; despite this being our main objective we also develop stand alone applications for windows and linux.</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="38" time="08.22.25" ref="0">wiki is great when you need to speak concisely about something, when you need your data in a very readable form and easy to use bu the people that read it. it also provides the advantage that other people can contribute to your articles , of course after approval.....</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="39" time="08.23.22" ref="35">if you key is organized data I do think that wiki is the answer</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="40" time="08.24.19" ref="38">about the contribution, the information is not allways correct...</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="41" time="08.24.27" ref="39">i agree with you that a company that wants to keep in an organsed form all their procedures and data should use a wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="42" time="08.25.18" ref="0">but as (#user2#) says, the information quality is not always the best</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="43" time="08.26.20" ref="26">i think that blog are there to keep in touch with the sensitive part of the customer... chats are good for tech support etc. but need a lot of men power which can be a big drowback for small companies</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="44" time="08.27.25" ref="43">a support you on that...a blog is a more easy environment to work with and addapt for everybody's needs</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="45" time="08.27.28" ref="0">a small company would need no more than two or three specialist to copewith their customers in a live chat system</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="46" time="08.28.01" ref="42">the info quality depends solely on the author ...</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="47" time="08.28.33" ref="45">but they have to be online all the time, in order to be able to answer any questions</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="48" time="08.28.35" ref="46">yes, and because there are many authors the information is hard to be up-to-date and correct in a wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="49" time="08.31.11" ref="47">and only online users can benefit from the discussion.... the information on a chat conference is available only to the users involved in the conversation</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="50" time="08.31.13" ref="45">I'm not realy sure about that number .... i think 5 is minimum , live chat implies administrative side duties after you ar done with one client, and the time it take to do those duties may take longer sometimes than the chat it self , so ....</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="51" time="08.31.17" ref="48">And in a company is very important that the information to be correct and updated, and blogs are an excellent way of sharing knowledge within the organization</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="52" time="08.32.17" ref="50">i was reffering to small companies, they do not have thousands of customers in a day... even less than a hundred maybe. anyway i was just aproximating</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="53" time="08.33.31" ref="48">but in a wiki all new additions to the article are supervised, one author may or may not aprove a addition, I also think that verifying a article is far less time consumming than writing it</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="54" time="08.34.06" ref="52">yes but how many blogs can you read in one day?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="55" time="08.34.26" ref="53">is less time consumming but is hard to spervise all the articles when the number of writers is to big</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="56" time="08.35.04" ref="55">sad, but true, true</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="57" time="08.35.19" ref="53">i disagree, if you want to make sure that all the information is accurate than you have to check it thourghlly?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="58" time="08.35.45" ref="57">*without the question mark</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="59" time="08.35.51" ref="54">only the ones you are interrested in, using rss feed you can keep track of the new aticles that are posted. the blog</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="60" time="08.36.05" ref="59">A Feed is a function of special software that allows "Feedreaders" to access a site automatically looking for new content and then post updates about that new content to another site.</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="61" time="08.36.49" ref="53">wikis don't offer the possibility of asking questions or posting opinions.... a forum can be better suited when the clients need answers to specific questions</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="62" time="08.37.53" ref="57">it is a accepted fact that if you written the article in the first place your are up to date with the subject, and that you've posted the bulk of the information in the main article and the additons are small and do not contain diploma like interventions...</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="63" time="08.41.45" ref="61">i agree here, one that uses a wiki for this purpose is clearly confused and did not thought the problem well before posting it; when clients have a lot of oppinions ( the subject of the article is in such a manner) or when they need answers to specific questions formus are the answers</Utterance>
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				<Utterance genid="64" time="08.42.25" ref="63">and when they need to comment the article it self they need a blog..</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="65" time="08.45.12" ref="64">not necessarely, on a blog a lot of people don't even read the comments, the main article is more important</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="66" time="08.45.13" ref="64">and some times when the subject of the article is one of actuality and great popular debat they might also need a chat, to have a live duel of ideas and oppinions</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="67" time="08.45.32" ref="62">i think that a wiki contains more information than a blog, but in a company is more important to be in touch to your client</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="68" time="08.45.40" ref="64">blogs are used to publish someone's opinion over something, that's why they are open to comments while the wiki should post accurate objective information</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="69" time="08.46.12" ref="66">exactly, the chat is the more reliable technology for direct feedback</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="70" time="08.47.06" ref="67">a company needs to keep in touch with all his clients by using chats, forums and blogs but also it needs to keep its employees informed overinternal procedure and that's where the wiki comes in</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="71" time="08.48.12" ref="68">It's a problem with understanding the blogs here, they are not used to publish onpinions, this is also a feature of blogs, but the information in a blog article is important. Nowadays, people tend to use blogs for personal purpose, but the blogs implemented in my company are organization blogs and not personal employee- opinion blogs</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="72" time="08.48.46" ref="71">yes you are right, all the large companies have such blogs. and all their ceo's too :P</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="73" time="08.49.14" ref="72">yes, and i think this is great for internal communication and feedback</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="74" time="08.52.17" ref="73">the feedback is mainly for the author, not for the entire community</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="75" time="08.52.54" ref="74">but when you have an organization you have a community of employees and not only the aouthor is interested in the respons</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="76" time="08.53.14" ref="0">on a forum, all users are equal.... its just a place where everyone can share his experience and can find someone that has the same interests</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="77" time="08.54.03" ref="76">yes, you are right, in some situations is important to have equal status for the users</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="78" time="08.54.21" ref="76">not really, there are alot of forums out there that are mediated and when posting you need to wait for aproval...</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="79" time="08.54.21" ref="75">the comments are post on the author's blog page....the other users cannot be notified when new comments are posted and they have to visit every blog to see what's new</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="80" time="08.55.23" ref="79">on the forum also the users have to revisit topics to see whats new</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="81" time="08.55.27" ref="77">but when building an information "tree" the credibility of tht info is based on the author and the track of it's articles,that's why blogs are used by large communities and bloggers refer to other articles and comments</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="82" time="08.56.28" ref="79">that is not true.you can submit to someone's blog and when a new post is added on the blog you are informed by an email</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="83" time="08.56.51" ref="81">on a forum users can also gain credibility.... they can havegrades based on the reliability of their messages</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="84" time="08.56.53" ref="79">and also the rss feed that i've talked about earlyer</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="85" time="08.57.01" ref="0">i think that all these technologies have advantages and disadvantages and if we would try and intregrate than than we would obtain the best results possible by getting alll the advantages in one place :P</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="86" time="08.57.31" ref="85">that is the purpose if we make an analisys...</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="87" time="08.57.54" ref="86">because in some ways you can't even compare chats with wikis</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="88" time="08.58.18" ref="87">exactly that's why we should combine their power</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="89" time="08.59.27" ref="85">right, many problems of one technology can be solved by a peacefuly and well planed cooperation with another technology</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="90" time="08.59.36" ref="88">i agree... we just have to take what's best from every technology</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="91" time="09.00.22" ref="88">and is clear from start that a well organized cooperation between this technology is best than avery individual part</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="92" time="09.01.00" ref="90">you are right</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="93" time="09.01.27" ref="0">ok so we all finally agree. now how do you propose we should collaborate?</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="94" time="09.01.54" ref="93">in my opinion, although i represent the blog...we should start all from wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="95" time="09.02.22" ref="0">because the wiki is like an enciclopedia and the more infromation we need - wiki is the source</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="96" time="09.02.26" ref="93">i dont think that we will find the phylosofer's stone tonight, aka a good for all formula of combining the 4 techs</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="97" time="09.02.38" ref="95">here is an idea: the wiki pages of a company can be supported by a chat service where clients can ask questions and share opinions about the posted information</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="98" time="09.02.42" ref="96">but let;s try</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="99" time="09.03.14" ref="0">yes and the authors of the wiki should keep in touch with the customers by using a blog also</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="100" time="09.03.16" ref="96">i think that a sollution must be looked upon for specific situations</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="101" time="09.03.45" ref="93">here is anoother ideea: a company with educational purpose for colaborative learning: has a site with wiki</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="102" time="09.04.00" ref="0">we all are companies that would like to appeal to a broad section of the market... so we should provide a general solution first</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="103" time="09.04.02" ref="97">the chat will be used for real-time communication, and a forum (of course) for posting unanswered questions</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="104" time="09.04.14" ref="100">yes..is righy</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="105" time="09.04.28" ref="100">another solution: a dynamic system were the user can chose one or more of the 4 tech and combine them afterwords on the web page</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="106" time="09.04.33" ref="103">sounds as the best solution to me</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="107" time="09.05.04" ref="103">forum cand be used also for techincal solutions..like when an user is having problems with accesing some information</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="108" time="09.05.12" ref="0">that would be a great idea, but please tell us a little bit more</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="109" time="09.05.38" ref="105">i meant that</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="110" time="09.06.08" ref="108">ok, is like a content management page, see the new igoogle</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="111" time="09.06.10" ref="105">the dynamic system is the best solution but will be probably expensive</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="112" time="09.06.33" ref="111">and hard to implement</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="113" time="09.06.42" ref="112">but not impossible</Utterance>
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			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="114" time="09.07.07" ref="110">you make a plan and see what suits you best and then just give a few click in the administrative section and up goes you brand new page with the selected technologies ready to use</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="115" time="09.07.14" ref="105">i think that's a good idea too... every user can customize his webpage according to his prefferences and use the most convenient technology</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="116" time="09.07.17" ref="113">yes, maybe we should offer both solutions.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="117" time="09.07.28" ref="112">we can take it slowley</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="118" time="09.08.09" ref="117">the start is a little hard..but once created this system is applieble to many organizations and that should be an advantage for us</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="119" time="09.08.15" ref="117">and by using java of flash we might be done with the beta version in a snap</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="120" time="09.09.01" ref="116">a very good idea, competition is the engine of succes, the bigger the competiton the better the results</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="121" time="09.09.06" ref="119">and i think all four technologies will be requiered when we will have important companies as customers</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="122" time="09.09.45" ref="121">a large company needs all the four technlogies so why not get them in the same product? :P</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="123" time="09.09.58" ref="0">maybe there could be special features for different kinds of users....like the management team can access every blog or chat room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="124" time="09.10.14" ref="120">it is common that a company starts with two ideas in project and then choses the best one for market implementation</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="125" time="09.10.24" ref="0">is the same product...but is a product that saves time when the client doesn't need every technology</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="126" time="09.11.14" ref="125">and everyone can choose what suits him best</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="127" time="09.11.17" ref="123">yes, these features cand be easy controlled on usong blogs..the acces on the blog cand be permitted only for some members</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="128" time="09.11.40" ref="127">or only some members are allowed to create a blog</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="129" time="09.11.58" ref="128">or to edit the wiki pages</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="130" time="09.12.13" ref="0">i see that we are slowly coming to a consense</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="131" time="09.12.16" ref="129">yes, the wiki pages is very importand by whom are created</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="132" time="09.12.18" ref="0">:)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="133" time="09.12.27" ref="129">exactlly we should provide different categories of users and user rights</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="134" time="09.12.44" ref="130">big word in the intranet environment</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="135" time="09.13.09" ref="133">and we can hav diffent teams to develop each technologie, as long as they mantain that integrability feature</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="136" time="09.13.37" ref="133">is an important part of the system, maybe the most important part is to create the access medium</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="137" time="09.13.37" ref="0">the chat and the forum can be opened to all users, and only reliable users have the right to write wiki information or articles</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="138" time="09.13.41" ref="135">and one team that handels the sistem that can display all of the technologies in one web page</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="139" time="09.14.22" ref="137">the administrator of the forum has to be selected with good care</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="140" time="09.14.30" ref="130">yes each of our company should provide a specialist team that will work on implementation and we should have a supervisory team with members from all companies that will work on the collaborative part</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="141" time="09.15.07" ref="137">this options i think that are most suited to be left at the customer's choice, but none the less we should make them possible</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="142" time="09.15.44" ref="0">all this means a great number of peoples....that first develope the system and than maintain the system and then give special support for all clients...you know?!?!?!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="143" time="09.15.51" ref="141">that's true, the more flexible the application is, the better :)</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="144" time="09.16.25" ref="143">it is generically called OOP</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="145" time="09.17.25" ref="144">the supervision system integrates some objects that must be build by specific rules but in the rest they have a free hand in developing</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="146" time="09.22.30" ref="0">What about a real "study case" for aor company?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="147" time="09.22.39" ref="146">our</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="148" time="09.23.27" ref="0">any ideas anyone?</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="149" time="09.24.35" ref="148">creativity is one of my week points .... :(</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="150" time="09.24.41" ref="148">well i was thinking about an online learning site it needs all the four technlogies</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="151" time="09.24.56" ref="149">so let's use our minds...</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="152" time="09.25.09" ref="150">a wiki with the course materials, a chat between students and teachers, a forum for questions and also blogs</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="153" time="09.25.25" ref="150">this is something that really needs all four technologies</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="154" time="09.25.46" ref="152">forums for problems with homeworks...</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="155" time="09.26.02" ref="152">the wiki pages must be edited only by the teachers</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="156" time="09.26.32" ref="152">yes, in this case the correctness of the information is important</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="157" time="09.26.54" ref="155">yes , students if they think that there is a mistake should post on a special topic in the forum</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="158" time="09.27.33" ref="155">the wiki will contain information for all courses</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="159" time="09.27.50" ref="0">or discuss real time with the authors at scheduled moments using the chat system</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="160" time="09.28.36" ref="159">tha chat system will help the students to cooperate with each other in any problems regarding the courses</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="161" time="09.29.04" ref="159">the chat sistem may also be used as a vitual class room in some situations when one teacher is let say abroad..</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="162" time="09.29.05" ref="160">and also it will help them communicate easier with teachers if they have something unclear</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="163" time="09.29.18" ref="152">the blogs can allow comment from everyone, so that teachers can get feedback from the students</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="164" time="09.29.49" ref="163">course feedback should be present on the forums too</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="165" time="09.30.25" ref="0">this is a great idea and i think that many universities around the world would like to use such a system</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="166" time="09.30.28" ref="0">forums are important to announce informations for students that can participate to every course</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="167" time="09.30.32" ref="0">especially for long distance courses</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="168" time="09.32.01" ref="0">i think the discusion tonight turned out beautiful, but all things have an end, if you look at the sun to long you will go blind, meening that some time one need to have a more detached look at someting to be able to judge it correctly</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="169" time="09.32.18" ref="152">These four technologies are very important, the e-learning case is just a special case that uses all four of them,but there are cases of companies that will need our services.</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="170" time="09.33.34" ref="0">So, all being said the conversation should end here...</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="171" time="09.35.02" ref="0">we should meet up later to elaborate on the details of our project. but for now we can end up here</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="172" time="09.35.09" ref="0">have a nice evening!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="173" time="09.35.19" ref="0">nice evening all</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="174" time="09.35.25" ref="171">good point!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="175" time="09.35.34" ref="0">good by every one!</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="176" time="09.35.35" ref="0">ok...it was nice talking to you</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="177" time="09.35.41" ref="0">have a nice evening</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user3#)">
				<Utterance genid="178" time="09.36.07" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user1#)">
				<Utterance genid="179" time="09.36.14" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user2#)">
				<Utterance genid="180" time="09.36.24" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
			<Turn nickname="(#user0#)">
				<Utterance genid="181" time="09.36.27" ref="0">leaves the room</Utterance>
			</Turn>
		</Body>
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