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Apr 28

Pretraining Large Language Models with NVFP4

Large Language Models (LLMs) today are powerful problem solvers across many domains, and they continue to get stronger as they scale in model size, training set size, and training set quality, as shown by extensive research and experimentation across the industry. Training a frontier model today requires on the order of tens to hundreds of yottaflops, which is a massive investment of time, compute, and energy. Improving pretraining efficiency is therefore essential to enable the next generation of even more capable LLMs. While 8-bit floating point (FP8) training is now widely adopted, transitioning to even narrower precision, such as 4-bit floating point (FP4), could unlock additional improvements in computational speed and resource utilization. However, quantization at this level poses challenges to training stability, convergence, and implementation, notably for large-scale models trained on long token horizons. In this study, we introduce a novel approach for stable and accurate training of large language models (LLMs) using the NVFP4 format. Our method integrates Random Hadamard transforms (RHT) to bound block-level outliers, employs a two-dimensional quantization scheme for consistent representations across both the forward and backward passes, utilizes stochastic rounding for unbiased gradient estimation, and incorporates selective high-precision layers. We validate our approach by training a 12-billion-parameter model on 10 trillion tokens -- the longest publicly documented training run in 4-bit precision to date. Our results show that the model trained with our NVFP4-based pretraining technique achieves training loss and downstream task accuracies comparable to an FP8 baseline. These findings highlight that NVFP4, when combined with our training approach, represents a major step forward in narrow-precision LLM training algorithms.

nvidia NVIDIA
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Sep 29, 2025 2

ARCQuant: Boosting NVFP4 Quantization with Augmented Residual Channels for LLMs

The emergence of fine-grained numerical formats like NVFP4 presents new opportunities for efficient Large Language Model (LLM) inference. However, it is difficult to adapt existing Post-Training Quantization (PTQ) strategies to these formats: rotation-based methods compromise fine-grained block isolation; smoothing techniques struggle with significant 4-bit quantization errors; and mixed-precision approaches often conflict with hardware constraints on unified-precision computation. To address these challenges, we propose ARCQuant, a framework that boosts NVFP4 performance via Augmented Residual Channels. Distinct from methods that compromise block isolation or hardware uniformity, ARCQuant maintains a strictly unified NVFP4 format by augmenting the activation matrix with quantized residual channels. This design integrates the error compensation process directly into the matrix reduction dimension, enabling the use of standard, highly optimized GEMM kernels with minimal overhead. Theoretical analysis confirms that the worst-case error bound of our dual-stage NVFP4 quantization is comparable to that of standard 8-bit formats such as MXFP8. Extensive experiments on LLaMA and Qwen models demonstrate that ARCQuant achieves state-of-the-art accuracy, comparable to full-precision baselines in perplexity and downstream tasks. Furthermore, deployment on RTX 5090 and RTX PRO 6000 GPUs confirms practical benefits, achieving up to 3x speedup over FP16. Our code is available at https://github.com/actypedef/ARCQuant .

  • 6 authors
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Jan 12

Diagnosing FP4 inference: a layer-wise and block-wise sensitivity analysis of NVFP4 and MXFP4

Quantization addresses the high resource demand for large language models (LLMs) by alleviating memory pressure and bandwidth congestion and providing significantly scaled compute power with a tolerable impact on accuracy. Four-bit floating point (FP4), the lowest-precision format that preserves essential numerical properties such as exponent and sign, has begun to be adopted in cutting-edge architectures, including Blackwell and AMD CDNA, to support LLM quantization and reduce deployment costs. Although aggressive quantization can yield efficiency gains, the quantization sensitivity of within-transformer layers and whether these sensitivities generalize across existing FP4 formats and model scales remain underexplored. To elucidate quantization sensitivity, this study conducts a systematic analysis of two FP4 formats, MXFP4 and NVFP4, across three Qwen2.5 model scales (0.5B, 7B, and 14B), using controlled component-wise and block-wise isolation methodologies. We observe that MLP up- and down-projection layers consistently dominate in terms of sensitivity, while gate and attention projections are moderately and substantially less sensitive to FP4 quantization, respectively. We further find that sensitivity does not universally localize to the final blocks, but early blocks can be highly sensitive, particularly under MXFP4. Our results provide a diagnostic characterization of the inference behavior of FP4 across components, depths, and FP4 formats.

  • 3 authors
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Mar 4