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don't you see the foolishness of that based on your own personal life experiences as a sentient human being? no. you were the one who posted that something does not need to be sentient in order to be alive. why, then, do you distinguish between two things that are obviously both alive, both of which are parasites on their hosts?
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you shouldn't bring your family into these things. lol! reckon you toads got your heads handed to you at yorktown. gotta love it. now go change your diaper.
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Actually, it does no such thing. It merely means a secular moralist must justify moral codes on the basis of their intrinsic rationality and real world consequences, rather than appealing to a deity as an arbitrary authority. Since all the scriptures of the world have been written by people, this moral authority represents nothing more than their personal opinions about what they think their god wants.
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Well, I have heard people on the pro-gun side say that most defensive gun uses don't involve firing even one round. So limiting the capacity would probably have less of an effect on the ability to defend yourself than on crime. So why are people from the gun lobby always whining about restrictions like this? When semi-automatic rifles were banned in Australia, hunters welcomed the law. They saw it as a challenge because it takes greater skill to shoot an animal with a bolt action rifle. Not so in America where some gun owners like to use guns that could take down planes to shoot small animals.
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So why should you care about their non-scientific beliefs in a debate on science? Most people who believe in evolution do so because of science, so their non-scientific beliefs are irrelevant.
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Your glittering generalizations doom you to the point of mediocrity. Just another attempt at propaganda everyone is tired of.
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true, though they can't have been going against the bible as it didn't exist then. how did people decide what was right or wrong before the bible came along? all those millennia without a moral guideline, i'm surprised the human race ever made it (or any other race for that matter). emoticonxangel smiley emoticonxangel
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'fast and furious' white house gun control - page 1 - chuck norris - townhall conservative chuck norris on gun smuggling administration. don't you gun grabbers feel bad to be yet again on the wrong side? that would be the criminal side...
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Great way of twisting what I said. Would you like a Snickers bar?
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is hillary clinton a truthful politician? perhaps 'truthful politician' is an oxymoron. if her robust commentary on the iranian regime isn't just an attempt to appease (some) republican sentiment in her bid for the presidency, then she should state what 'clear and unequivocal' policy she recommends that the united states should adopt in order to deal with the threat from iran. i don't think she will make clear what aggressive option she favours, if any - at least during her presidential campaign - on the grounds that it might offend (some) democratic sentiment. james.
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most serial killers in american are male, christian and american. just like you.:) there are millions of arab children. there aren't millions of suicide bombers. how do you explain this? the post two posts up asks for numbers. got any bassman? -wez
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Funny, I don't see waves of Christians pounding their beliefs down anyone's throats. They are using the ballot, which is their right. Unless you're against fair elections, too. emoticonXRolleyes
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He could still call home if he needs someone raised from the dead :) God sacrifices I get it, he's still being obedient to himself.
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And what is an inheritance? Proverbs 13:13 he who feareth the commandment shall be rewarded. 14 The law of the wise is a fountain of life. 15 Good understanding giveth favor 16 Every prudent man dealeth with knowledge 17 a faithful ambassador is health 18
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And you know what? No amount of epigenetic change is going to turn a fruitfly embryo into a human. One of the reasons they are different, and subject to different epigenetic regimes, is because despite genetic homologies (which evolutionary theory predict
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And so wasn't the universal opinion that homosexuality is unnatural, wrong and to no benefit to Society at all.
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So on what day did he create time on. Its not mentioned anywhere in the biblical text which seems to simply assume time.
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Well, there's also carbon dating... Didn't you post something about a decay curve? Are you now going to deny the accuracy of that?
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and you can thank the unions with their inflated wage/benefit packages they strongarmed from companies/municipalities for the high cost. oh yes it is. new york is the only state where pbulic sector jobs, which bring little to no growth to an economy actually outpace the private sector. and you still think that heavy industry is the end-all be-all to economic survival?? america has a dynamic economy, not static.
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Not in matters of atheism. Tell me, when science discovers something that seems to agree with the 150 year old writings of Darwin, are the writings of Darwin disregarded? Or is that type of history trumpeted to the masses?
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?? What are you trying to say?Science is knowledge, all knowledge, that is, anything we find to be true. There is no other "truth" out there, if there were, we'd be omniscient.
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i am none too surprised to see that the point was totally and utterly lost on you.
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Actually, qualified biologists know no such thing. In fact, I've never known one who would agree with that assertion. Can you give us some peer reviewed references to support your assertion?
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hehe.. Three negations in one sentance tammerlain? emoticonXWow :p BTW, do you know why portent is down?
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oh dear, and your argument against me is not based on what i've said, but what kind of person you perceive me to be. ouch!
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bwhahaaa....this is unreal. precrime? seriously? minority report? and guns magically turn people into 'bad guys'? hum...good to know. and its funny: we will remove the temptation of a lethal weapon by enforcing new laws via our own lethal weapons. you people are freaking retarded.
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Sounds like I got the better deal. Maybe you should have held your pre-printed sign higher so the cameras could read ALL of it. ;)
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Ahhh I see so God was more than willing to use extreme punishment for not loving your neighbor. Like how Sodom and Gomorrah were punished for not loving their neighbor.
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Too hard of a question... Pass. There'd be no need for an 'Abortion' forum on this board. His (my) name would be Mickey Jones? Easy... One of them would be sterile. Yes, No, and maybe so.
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That clearly went whooshing over your head. It was intended to mock the OP. (Interesting "new" bibilical revelation, indeed.) I don't put any credence in silly comparisons like the trite Kennedy/Lincoln litany that arose in the 60's or the similarly absurd list that INRI posted. They both demonstrate how one can concoct meaningless comparisons in an attempt to invent a non-existent connection between two unrelated events. It is the same for all "prophesies".
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dear thetruth, i have posted it as a serious topic. and of course it is meant to get people talking, thinking and arguing. if you were watching/listening to the trump press conference that obama brink into the middle of (beceause he was getting slaughtered), you would take this seriously. btw, on may 23rd (the day after he finisheds the last apprentice show), we can expect some announcement! what it will be i don't know, but i bet it will be trump confirming he will run for president. andy
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Not really the ball park is too wide. The place you live would be older than the earth. Take egypt. If Moses wrote Genesis the country he lived in was documented as older than his creation. It can't be 6-days. Angry Black Man Xqs me I mean Angry African American (AAA).
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That's is ridiculously poor logic. Simply becuase the church makes mistakes doesn't mean it's incorrect in all other charges. The US government is WAY more corrupt than the Catholic Church, and yet we obey every god-damned thing big brother makes us do.
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Well i know it wouldn't be sensible for anyone to call my child an it that is just disrespectfull to both your partener and child.
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No, Christianity holds that Jesus IS God. That Jesus also is NOT God just shows how contradictory the Bible is for Christians (but they overlook logic and hold blindly to their silly trinity position anyway).
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The egyptians predicted his birth, death, WWI, WWII, and they have predict the supposed end of the world. Are you saying that this religion was wrong? They predicted a lot more that I have not put that have come true.
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His 'cure' appears to be banging a rent boy! He most certainly one of yours:)
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??????? emoticonXBanghead emoticonXBanghead In that case they weren't called by God then, to be celibate, were they??? Anyone who is called by God and doesn't do it is in disobedience. This isn't rocket science, Foundit.
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Because their reasoning is obviously on the same level as their reading comprehension level.
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For being such a "happy Aussie", you sure do love to take shots and criticize people. Run out of those happy pills, perhaps? :)
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Agreed. That is why a sensible interpretation, of new data, is so important! :)
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yes they both rock,but the main things is what you're looking for. if your looking for romance,emotion,etc, that type then ya the twilight saga books are great. on the other hand,if you want to enter a world of fantisy,magic,action,etc,then the harry potter series kills anything. the movies of these two are good but not nearly as fantastic as their books. :)
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The article continues to comment that this mechanism serves as a mechanism tailored for evolution? Irrespective of its origins, somehow, life utilizes evolution FOR evolution. B. Convergence As seen in the docking simulation, the solutions all converg
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Christians offended by 'Happy Holidays' and non-Christians offended by 'Merry Christmas' are as moronic as each other imo. Two stupids don't make clever.:) -Wez
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I don't think people have a right to kills themselves (obviously not natural and obviously not legal right now). As for the other question, I wouldn't think a blatent disregard for the others health is morally ok.
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Make sure you clap when our defense is gutted and we can't adequately defend our own liberty. Turkey. You don't have an ounce of common sense.
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Yes. The first one isolated was a frame-shift mutation on a plasmid. A fairly common source of useful mutations in bacteria.
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Yes, some people are jumping ship, which is a crying shame. STICK TO YOUR GUNS MEN! WE'RE WINNING!
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Well then, I guess I must be a turkey-sandwich worshipper! emoticonXAngel
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That may seem like a brainstorm to you kronus, but to the enlightened, it was an obvious brainfart. emoticonXGood But I would never expect you to know the difference.
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Yes. The assumption happens to be that maybe the bible isn't literal. "Lets look into ourselves, shall we?" Behold we did, and Lo! The Earth is old!
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what is the point of arguing that life arose via evolution? at the rate you generate it i am not surprised.
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He wasn't trying to. Shooterandproud may be an unreasonable gun nut, but he accepts evolution.
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wonder where all our resident hypocrisy-police people are who jump up and cry 'hypocrisy!!!' whenever a 'family-values guy' messes up? funny, they don't seem to be so eager to call out hypocrisy in this case ....
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whatever happened to the unborn baby? No consulting him or her I guess. Even though the unborns body is being is the one being torn apart.
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My pursuit of happiness is denied by trees existing. Let's burn them down and destroy the environment. It's much better than me being unhappy.
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I think, perhaps, they are sending the message to the priests that molestation of little boys is totally unacceptable. Stick with little girls. Yeah....that's the ticket. emoticonXClown
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i love how you speak for all christians when you say that. 'as a racist, i believe that black people...' society has a compelling interest in, if not exposing people to differing cultures, lifestyles etc., then at least in not going out of its way to hide them. if homosexuals are so wrong, then the children will figure that out on their own without government prodding.
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the government has no business invading into the private, legal activities of two individuals. and how is requirement able to defeat straw purchasers? if you don't feel comfortable making the sale, don't make it. it's as simple as that.
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The judge should be informed that 'the leading' IDist admits that ID is religion. (yes, I've posted this before...) What else could an unembodied designer, which naturalism perforce excludes, be but a deity? So Dembski's ID has one or more unspecified deities - supernatural, unembodied designers - creating biological systems, at some unknown time, at some unknown place, by some unknown series of steps. What a great scientific theory! :-)
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You know what I find amusing here...your entire argument revolves around how it will affect your wallet. Forget about the lives of the people who are denied rights in this country that you take forgranted. That is the true christian-American spirit isn't it? Oh how proud our forefathers would be if they could see us now...oh wait...most of them owned people...nevermind.
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i'm not surprised that you side with them. you're three peas in a pod. my point was that constantly beating dissenter over the head with the bible is counter-productive and the antithesis of jesus' message. i suggest that if your goal is to fight all religious challengers, you're in the wrong religion. you should be muslims. muslins want to beat non-believers into submission, not christians.
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NO, these were all ammedments. all passed. All written recently. There are laws on the book from the 1800's but that isn't what just passed.
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Why would they be useless? They aren't useless on birds? And how is this qustion different in any meaningful way from the above? Aren't wings forelimbs with feathers? It seems that soaring or gliding or even faster running would be extremely useful.
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Well then. All of the ex-christians have it both ways don't they. Since they are saved they can lie, cheat, steal and have wild, illicit sex (following the example of several christian preachers).
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It's all very interesting, but you left out a critical piece of information. You deliberately omitted the fact that most of the black victims were killed by fellow blacks. These weren't murders carried out by racist white guys, they're the examples of black on black violence.
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you are attempting to trivialize the bias we who are gay, face, against our sexuality. you try to trivialize everything we have accomplished in terms of social acceptance, that heterosexuals have always taken for granted. your assinine comments show sensitivity to no one. maybe you'd like to start a pride movement for ignorant, insensitive, jackasses? society is moving so against that group right now.
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Sinjin, Your simian like intelligence has understandably misinterpreted my post, I never once implied that I aspire to be a do-gooder or that I applauded philanthropy. For your information I detest charity and philanthropy (philosophically speaking). Your simian barks from the sidelines are entertaining, but nothing else. Now to the other heckler Waxy, who at least offered more than an unintelligible grunt in his / her heckle.
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I think a free society works better by saying "You have to have at least a certain variety to give your customers a choice in products". Businesses should have the restrictions, not private citizens.
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Should it be legalized? Only if every other country did itIs it harmful? Yes more so then moderate alcohol use and worse then smokingShould it be taxed once legalized? Yes.Should laws still apply to it, such as DUIs and the like? Yes.
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Hey I know, maybe you can use the Liberal Source Watch to debunk the GAO report. emoticonXSmilie
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watch out ez.dani thinks that you responding to my posts constitutes that you ' hang around' with people like me. we wouldnt want to make the little darling cry again lol.
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I get what you are trying to do but it doesn't work. You might as well say "let's print a bunch of money...pay off the debts...and then force people to burn it!".
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I love to go to the playground and watch the children jumping up and down. They don't know I'm firing blanks."
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What would you know about fair and balanced?emoticonXCensoredI know a lot of truths about gays. Do you want me to start posting incessant threads pointing them all out?And I am the moderator for the formal debate forum, not the entire board. Want to debate me on the benefits of gays on society vs Christianity?
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Manslaughter involves a direct action that causes an unintentional death. Miscarriage is involuntary; besides the person suffering a miscarriage might well want to keep the baby. To equate miscarriage with manslaughter is preposterous.
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The state right before the Big Bang didn't have H, He, or any space.
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The debate has been settled a long time ago. and also about dragons!
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exactly the logic behind the condom. oh- i'm sorry, those are sinful. looks like you're gonna be virgin for a long time! and good thing too. we don't need any more fundies breeding. :)
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The gentleman (??) in question has been presented the facts numerous times. He "pooh-pooh"s them as irrelevant. He places himself above scientific research. He doesn't know the difference between unsolicitated testimonials and scientific evidence.
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Oh you do love to do the psychological technique known as 'transference' don't you...or is it 'projection'??? You are so obsessed with gay sex, I would not be surprised if you and Ted Haggard have a lot to talk about.
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are you done spamming and threatening me with admin? that's just lame and pathetic.
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I guess I'd have to reluctantly admit that it didn't take long for some....but I'm an eternal optimist and think civility will prevail. Besides, I try not to judge everybody by the acts of a few.
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daniel dennett asks, how did just one species, homo sapiens, acquire the numinous perspective that can have such a profound influence on people's lives? he seems to think that religions evolved and originally served a 'primitive' philosophical intention - such as explaining the hidden 'causes' of natural events in pre-scientific societies. to give just one example: the rise and fall of the tides were observed, but not understood. so the phenomena were attributed to the power of a god (or gods) etc. i think this is a pretty commonplace answer, but not necessarily wrong. why has religion survived the scepticism of the intellectual enlightenment and the rational attacks of science? the idea that some fundamental 'psychic need' in humanity is satisfied by having religious beliefs seems (to me) the most promising speculation.
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And, what percentage is that? How was the poll conducted? Who conducted it? How was the determination made about who was a 'scientist'?
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So the initial murder wasn't enough to show "that they are willing to commit acts of violence"? This makes absolutely no sense.
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Some of us have to work for a living, Snicklefritz. So, what have you got?
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Same place. Australia. That, after 5 or 6 thousand illegal guns were just handed in during the last in a series of never-ending amnesties.
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i'm totally surprised i've posted so many posts in this thread: not like me at all.
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i am surprised scientists havn't made so much of a fuss about you. wow......
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Oh that greatly changes the equation doesn't it? Very unrealistic, but for the sakes of the debate, why not? Well, alledgedly, 23 innocent people have been put to death, and for sure two unrefutable cases. I don't support killing people as a deterrent or as any means in a justice system.
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Does any part of the theory of evolution give an accounting of how we transitioned from quadruped movements of the ape to biped?
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Simply put tq, and try real hard to comprehend this. I was referring to statues and a false belief system, not human beings which Saints and Mary both clearly are. Here are the quotes of mine that you posted again to remind you of the very clear difference.
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Perfect. A creationists caught repeating the same refuted arguments on different forums. Resistance is met, run like a coward to another forum.
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So we should wait till the blastocyst is definitely a tumour, in case it turns into a fetus?
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So? There are other articles and books that do. Is your link the ultimate authority on the cause of crime?
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Being in the minority or in the majority is irrelevant. Belief has no bearing on reality.
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Yes but of course was that rreally a consious choice? I see sarcasm but no real answer that is credible.......seesh if I wanted srcasm I would have watched the Orielly factor. (oh wait thats yelling and bicering) knida like politics! (oops sarcasm hehe)
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Why? You'll just call them 'stupid'. And by doing so you will have effectively trumped all of the facts in one fell swoop. Right?
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I agree. What is the point? Felons with firearms do not bother with CCW licenses.
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