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they may respect life but what about respecting the quality of life? if they cared about their children's future they would not breed like rabbits. It is callous to use their children to win the 'numbers game' quality before quantity. I don't deny that abortion is murder in the womb though.
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Depends on how basic they are. Not much call for using flint, steel and tinder to start fires.
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But on the other hand, Genesis isn't a scientific document. No wonder. Why would a bronze age nomad from the Levant be aware of at least 3 tailless species of primates, or even the tailed primates from Africa, South America, and even Madigascar. If they aren't mentioned in the Bible, do they exist?
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My thoughts are my own, not from some 2000 year old Book that makes as much sense as a bag of Rocks. And I have only ever called anyone a name in response to an attack on me, If you call what you have been doing debating then I see what the problem really is.
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It is an acronym for 'Y'oung 'E'arth 'C'reationist. In other words... someone who believes that the earth is only 6,000 - 10,000 years old and was created in six days by a being known as God.
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Again, true. But that doesn't take into account that there are two populations under consideration.
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No, you at least need a sling shot and ball bearings, lol.
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The problem is that there is no test the staff can administer to determine love. They can't tell if someone is really a loved one, or just some freak off the street that gets off on looking at unconscious people. Restricting access to family members is not an inherently bad idea, but it must include in its definition of family same sex couples. And since the only way to guarantee that definition is legally, what we have here is one more reason why gays should be allowed to get married.
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So what is being monitored by the ribosome? Information. Material representations (amino acid sequence vs DNA sequence) of information. But, it does not only monitor it, it manipulates it as a means to an end... fidelity.
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The goal of anti-abortionist is clear. The job of self restraint is that of each participant in their close encounters.
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Your absolutely right. I am unsure of the point of this thread entirely. Is it just like fishing for responses on what our notions are or are you trying to learn something for yourself in which case I would say personal research is better than online forums. Cool coincidence
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I believe you've missed the point. He's not against evolution; change of species over time into other species. He in fact, from what I can gather, does indeed believe in evolution He's arguing that it didn't come about through materialistic processes.
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And he accomplished all this human carnage without a gun. This just proves that if it was possible to eliminate all projectile firing weapons from existing on earth, men would find a way to commit atrocities against his own kind just as he did before such weapons existed if murder was in his heart. Guns are not the issue, the corrupted heart/nature of humanity is.
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i'm intrigued as well, most of the bands are in the same size font, this could turn into a whole new debate!!
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The main incentive for a male child is that in China you can only have one child without severe penalties and a female child means the family name is lost.
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Wow that worked well. Please explain where his logic is flawed in the point he made. You cant, because its not. This just proves how much this "point" along with all your other arguments have "flaws in logic" if you will.
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Oh come on! Instead of turning my sarcasm on it's head why don;t you log off and go listen to some more Chuck Smith tapes? I'm sure the Calvary Chapel brigade could use another "donation."
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Thank You. You know how much I love to impress people.
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That who knows? Your use of "we" does not include many religious folk I assume. I would claim to know of much interaction that God has and has had with the world.
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is this in response to isly's out of context quote? he didn't even quote it correctly. it actually starts 'to avoid being mistaken for a sellout,i chose my friends carefully.' it's amazing how many people are throwing that quote, and isly's misquote, around in attempt to 'prove' that obama is a scary leftist radical. ooh, a college kid cultivating an image! what bizarre behavior, that'll come back to haunt him! :) first clinton, now obama. this is just the standard conservative smear job on the democrat-du-jour, taking out of context quotes and blowing them up to try to make someone they don't like look liberal. *shudder*
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good thing this argument has never been done!...oh wait. With that logic we should make everything legal. You are much better off making theft legal and safe (no more guns needed!) than to have it illegal and dangerous.
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Actually, I read that the god of the bible was really a macaroni monster. He likes cheese, too.
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Wow what a lovely christian setaments and attitudes. I wonder what Jesus would say about his number one fan after a statements of hate as the ones above.
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And you know he is NATO's boy how? You get a bit more looney with each post there comic relief. Keep the laffs coming tho.
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I'm not a "TROLL" unless of course disagreeing or believing differently from you makes me one. If so then I wear the title with pride.
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to be honest, i'm surprised it was that hard to give a corporate handout. any big insurance company and big drug company is delighted since their competition will now be squashed and the average joe will delight in their weaker care at a higher price. but hey, a for effort, right? emoticonxrolleyes you don't get points for failing to deliver or delivering a failure in my opinion.
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You are getting to a more complicated area where "mental existence" no longer matters. I've explained earlier that it isn't exactly the same as "self defense" so I don't think a similiar response is needed. Furthermore, you are saying mental existence is not solely the thing that gives you value but rather it depends on outside influences and chance. At some point it just seems like the stance on abortion is that the woman is more important no matter what. This is why I claim some will rank humans above other humans...a dangerous precedent which we have tried before.
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So does this mean they have to get tougher on gun control or softer before the results go their way? That is the real question. My guess is that we are caught in the unhappy medium where going in either direction will be more successful than where we are now.
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then it will open the door to eventual total control. oh yeah, most autocratic regimes started with governments taking away child beauty pageants! just to confirm, i don't disagree that they shouldn't ban them, i just think making such a statement, that is such great speculation, and has so little basis in fact, is reasonable.
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oh yes, the kkk, that 'rightous' chrisitan orignization. it is stil quite active in the south, particularly in many of the bible belt states, and east texas
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That would most likely (imo) reduce the number of abortions performed. It would depend, I think, on how viable it is to transfer the embryo into the artificial womb. Forced surgery would not be an option if I had anything to do about it.
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That's right. It merely has the capacity to make errors which sometimes slightly improves function in a particular environment. And those tend to accumulate over time.
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1st, i never said it was only geography. second .... stats please, regarding your new claim here? so you do think they are inversely proportional. (can't say i'm surprised, it's a view consistent with anti-religious prejudice.) there are plenty of christian scientists with phds that would, i suspect, disagree with you. and i have no idea what your point is on the homeschooling comment. homeschoolers often do better academically.
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Your XXX-umption that is a poor attempt to certify a false delimma has long been answered. How many people have been killed in Africa with short handled hoes and machetes? Nary a gun amoungst them.
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I think hip hop and the arts are reflections of society. It is good to bring these issues to light, if only so that those who wouldn't normally be aware of them are enlightened.
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I think that the bad guys will be happy if any gun control law goes into effect, because then there will be less chance of the victum having a weapon for their defense, and the crime rate will rise!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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And so have animals. Plants have been wiped out in the great extinctions too. [quote]Carbon dioxide producing animals could even feed themselves with their own breathe![/quot] Huh? You produce carbon dioxide. How do you propose to feed yourself with that?
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Considering what the TOE says, if a dolphin ever gave birth to a chipmunk, it would disprove evolution.
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Some theists are willing to ignore such discussions. It has nothing to do with whether God exists. As previously stated, this thread topic is meaningless because of our inequality to God and the illogicalness of the question. We do not and will never understand Him totally.
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reckon you don't know much about christianity then. when you can bust the resurrection of jesus christ then you might have something to argue about. until then your claim that christianity is untrue is simply a lot of hot air.
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There is only one problem with your statement my friend, and it is a big one in my opinion. I'll fix it! If the bill of rights isn't legally binding, then the declaring of a law to be unconstitutional would never happen. There! It looks correct now!
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oh yeah, they all have a secret meaning to me, lol except the dna helix, i just really love biology x) i much prefer to have something permanent on me meaningful.
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Not nearly as tired as the "YOU can't live like that because it is against MY religion" argument. Hell, that one pre-dates Christianity!
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Anyone wanna make any bets on who the newbie is here???
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You mean my dog 'CIgarette'??I took him out for a drag.
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That's incorrect. The Constitution begins with Article 1 which does not contain the Bill of Rights. The Constitution contains seven articles which are followed by the Bill of Rights and the rest of the amendments. If you really are from England as you claim then I guess your lack of knowledge about the American Constitution is understandable.
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Voice of Reason? HmmHe used to be in Military Intelligence hence the debacle in Vietnam. He probably still thinks that the US won the war.
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So you haven't got an answer to the question and prove that you are 'busted'.. That's OK...as long as we can all see that.
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Because it was reported that every U.S. medical association was against the ban. My only source was MSNBC.
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B.S. simone. He was the perfect age for Vietnam. Why hasn't he released his draft card? I know, they only sent them to citizens.
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No one 'accidentally' encounters at least half a dozen men wanking. Did you go one a Spanish bukkake tour? Or maybe you were waiting outside while your gay friend was 'cottaging'emoticonXDonno
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Now that is a diaper load. How's that free speech thing doing up there by the way.
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Oh, but it does mean something to him. He can't/won't say what, but it sure isn't based on homophobia, no siree! It's just really, really important that marriage stay a striaghts only club, for reasons that can't be explained, but there's no bigotry, don't worry on that score. emoticonXRolleyes
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i'm surprised cindy sheehan and the radical left aren't wearing turbans and funding al queda already, as much as they despise america's war on terrorism. but maybe some of them are.
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Having had your rights trampled on for so long, I would expect to get a warmer reception from the gay-marriage crowd. I feel your pain! Other people's concept of love and marriage are being forced upon me!
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I think the OP said it pretty well. If an organism or cell can process information and then make decisions based on that information, that's intelligence.
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Evolution's evidence is that life is similar, you won't be able to find an exception I am sure.
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Oh, boy... here you come with your anti-religious bigotry rhetoric, who mentioned one thing about religiosity? C'mon Simone... let's coddle those little bats of common sense back under the belfry of reason where they are supposed to roost... They didn't need laws against it back then because peopel had more human dignity and respect for human life... and they responded within the realm of decency and basic propriety. It is a shame we actually have to go there...
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You mean your hypothetical I presume? Murder violates the rights of the murdered by relieving them of their life. That's why it's illegal. You're a bit slow I see.
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No, that's just the pork tacked onto the original bill.
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Ok. I'm not a YEC. So, God creation through science is a viable option for my faith.
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too late. have you stepped foot on a politically correct college campus recently? the former bastions of free speech are worse than almost anywhere else in the us now. emoticonxmad
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Is that not agnostic? You leave yourself open to change if evidence dictates it. Sorry if this is just turning into word games.
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He made a post suggesting you were a troll, it has been removed it seems. Anyway, glad to help.
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Really? Then why haven't you condemned organizations such as the Brady Campaign? They continually put out the lie that the .50 BMG is capable of bringing down commercial planes as if the entire process was mere child's play, but there's absolutely not a shred of evidence to support this claim.
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Non-aggressive, yeah. That's why it's Israel that's the occupying force in Palestine and not the other way around. emoticonXWow
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I dunno. What is the scoop here? You complain about the responses we give, and yet you keep coming back for more. Even people with down syndrome learn enough to only stick their hands in the open flame once.
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I typically don't read Antonia's propaganda pieces, so is she holding up the UK as a shining example of dental health? If so, I suggest that she ask a typical Brit to smile, so she can see for herself the folly in such an assertion. The US' "bubbas" have better teeth than the average Brit. emoticonXRolleyes
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So what's the deal when GWB "gives" $3,000 but the insurance premiums cost $6,000, the family can't make up the difference and the $3,000 goes unspent. All we've accomplished is to transfer $ out of the U.S. Treasury. You think it's a good idea to just give money away and not get anything for it? You're thinking of the Clinton years when there was a surplus.
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Is this where you fall to your quaking knees, frothing at the maw, shouting halllalujah hallllaaaaalujahhhhhhh
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No more of a poison than alcohol (actually far less), should we start lacing that with strychnine? ***I can see it now****Excuse me bartender...what are the drink specials?-We got Bud Light bottles for $4.00, Jagerbombs for $7.50, and this new drink called Convulsions on the Beach. First one is on the house!
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Could you please cite where you are getting this biological definition of evolution?
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In case you were wondering, no one here has missed the fact that you're trying to divert attention from the real issues by beating one minor issue into the ground.
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Atheism is a religion? Pray tell, where would I find the atheist church?Ridiculous.
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Liar, liar, pants on fire. You pro gay sex heathens haven't a clue what's coming your way. And you don't have to like it.
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wow, so everyone else is just wrong. no chance you could be? i am willing to bet that you also disagree with many christians or they disagree with you at least.
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Please provide the actual estimates of the time required along with the necessary references if you please! How much time WOULD it take with confidence limits please!
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why do you assume the poster didn't use birth control? they said nothing about birth control; only a statement on being pregnant and having an abortion. also, why do you make any assumptions about suffering? according to the poster, suffering was avoided. condoms are not 100% effective. a childhood friend's younger sibling was the product of a failed condom, among other factors. nine months and nine weeks are completely different.
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the law abiding responsible gun owner who gunned them down did so respectfully, right ? emoticonXFrazzled You gun crazies are the only ones with a sick political agenda, you ought to be all sent to a loony bin and given water pistols.
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<Flush>Your own source said there's a cliff a mile and a half away, and I'm the liar? Go find it and jump off it, you flaming, incompetent, scatter-brained, dishonest cretin.
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Do you think this resistance got their most useful weapons out of a normal store? Please dont try such arguments without knowing about European history.
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You only say that it won't make a change because you support the effects it will have.
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Whatever you sound like a goverment offical now why so many questions? huh what are you trying to get at? Ooaman or should I said Order of apostrophe man?
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Where is the government in this? Clinicians made a clinical decision, and hid behind a non-mandatory guideline, which was set by other more senior clinicians, expert in their field. Assuming the woman's very detailed recall of the stressful series of events is accurate, perhaps it was God's way of telling this unmarried mother that after five previous miscarriages, she still wasn't getting the message.
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i'm a bit surprised at the publicity this case has attracted: even here in the uk, the first item on the 10 o' clock tv news last night was a report from outside the court house (waiting for the verdict). i've never heard jackson sing and know next to nothing about his career - why has this case made such a stir in the media ? is it just a fascination with 'celebrity' ?
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So you disagree with Zardoz then? True christians are those who profess faith and bear false witness? True christians are those who are ignorant, vain, boastful insulting liars? Interesting...
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men should be allowed nine months after learning of the pregnency to legally \"abort\" their relationship with the child. Otherwize men are left with fewer \"rights\" and additional responsibilities (for which he can be arrested if he doesn't meet them).However it would be much easier to consider intercourse the only time when any \"choice\" can be made." With womens right's getting shredded in the debate over abortion, fewer and fewer women are going to want to even risk have sex with men at all. It'll cause a wave of abstinence and imprisonment that will cut succesive generations in half. That'll even further errode the solvancy of social security.
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But there seem to be so darn many of them, everywhere you look among the religious right. Why is that? Can't they go out and recruit people with IQs somewhat above room temperature?
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They do not differ in any significant way. The living species today closely resemble the fossils. The prediction was made based on the mindset that everything evolved from a common ancestor over billions of years. Furthermore, it was based upon the fossil record, which is supposedly shows how everything evolved.
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They're going to say no? CA tried that. Tell me the last time utility costs were reduced by a state agency. It's a rubber stamp and nothing else. We travel in different investment circles. I don't know anyone putting their money in US long-term syndication on the equity side not associated with health care real property and a petrochemical plant can be a 40-year useful life situation. What's your take on the US economy in 5, 10 and 20+ years? Good enough to put up the money for what may well be surplus refining capacity before useful life term is reached? Enviros or not, if the return is there money always has its own way of doing things. Corporations are awash in cash. Liquidity has been the name of the game for some time, but there are always bridge buyers.
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so have the trillions of dollars that have already been 'redistributed upward' since the reagan/gramm deregulation mania helped end poverty? or has it created a dependent class of ultra rich people unable to function without a taxpayer bailout? that sword, my shonda friend, cuts both ways.
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Yeah, I'm sure no one else will. It's just me, 'cause I'm so "hateful.' ROTFLMAO!
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When the criminal has greater civil protections than his victim, and this is viewed as being civilized, a society is doomed.
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I find this a fairly accurate summation of the goal of Hitlers final solution. Of course, Brady, you offer no evidence of how widespread individual firearm ownership became in the 5 years before Hitler rose to power when it became legal to possess firearms again. One would think that your argument would have at least considered this factorbut I wont fault you because all you have done is borrowed an un-sourced argument. Brady, this is just more cut and paste, this time largely from the website guninformation.org. For example, the statement
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kronus, like i said, you have to accept that (abiogenesis) by faith, don't you, since no one has ever seen it take place? and it can't be replicated either, can it? oh ye of great faith! lol!
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Perhaps some people here aren't on the same level of intelligence. Seems you and chester understand it now so that is good.
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Go tell it to your mother. She might be interested in your fulminations. And quit killing the innocent unborn.
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If you think something is correct then you believe this. That's all believe means. I believe the above statement is very true. Except that you wouldn't have to completely change your ideas or beliefs about the universe all the time. But you'd have to modify them. Anyway, who said beliefs had to be static and fixed?
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What is it about the same piece of paper you do not understand?
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what's wrong with gradualism? is it not statistically inevitable? by blending of traits, do you mean that you can't have active both genes from two parents? it seems like there would be exceptions to this. also, traits are rarely controlled by a single gene. would this not mean a trait could be derived from both maternal and paternal genes?
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